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wildone
Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: June 2005
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 3,239
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Wed March 8, 2006 11:57am
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Have we got Wild Goats in this country or should this be in with the Foreign Nationals?
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A poor life this if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare.
W.H.Davies
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Wolfhill
Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: February 2006
Location: Perthshire, Scotland
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Wed March 8, 2006 12:15pm
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You get wild goats in Scotland anyway. My Dad always shows me where they live, if we're ever near to Inverness.
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Fergus
My Scottish Nature Photography
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wildone
Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: June 2005
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 3,239
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Wed March 8, 2006 12:28pm
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Hi Wolfhill
I'm afraid I expressed myself rather badly. What I meant was are the Goats indigenous or introduced. If the former then they can be in the Mammals section otherwise they will need to be included with the Foreign Nationals. I am not sure where to place them at present.
wildone
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A poor life this if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare.
W.H.Davies
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All 'wild' goats within the uk are decended from escapees and released animals. Although it is often stated that many of them are decended from roman times, the earliest reliable documented evidence dates back to the fourteenth century - which of course doesn't mean they weren't present earlier. There is also a lot of documented evidence that most of the current populations are descended from releases/escapes around the turn of the century.
So at best I think you could probably group them with say grey squirrels in that they can be classed as naturalised species. They certainly are not indigenous species.
Hope this helps,
Alan
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wildone
Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: June 2005
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 3,239
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Thank you Alan. It is always good to have extra information about non-indigenous species.
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A poor life this if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare.
W.H.Davies
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Alan
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Registered: March 2006
Location: N.E. Lincolnshire
Posts: 4,126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stoatytoat
All 'wild' goats within the uk are decended from escapees and released animals. Although it is often stated that many of them are decended from roman times, the earliest reliable documented evidence dates back to the fourteenth century - which of course doesn't mean they weren't present earlier. There is also a lot of documented evidence that most of the current populations are descended from releases/escapes around the turn of the century.
So at best I think you could probably group them with say grey squirrels in that they can be classed as naturalised species. They certainly are not indigenous species.
Hope this helps,
Alan
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Not sure why I've been listed as a guest with the my previous reply, maybe my web link timed out!
Alan
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"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others"..
..Groucho Marx
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fisher
Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: February 2006
Posts: 1,510
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Boddie
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: September 2004
Location: Bolton
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I like this goat. It is a great picture and I would like to see these in the wild
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www.andrew-hunter.net
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fisher
Commander of the Wild Empire
Registered: February 2006
Posts: 1,510
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Thanks for the comment Boddie! If you have a head for heights just come up to Scotland and visit the Grey Mares Tail in Dumfries and you will be guaranteed to see them in the wild.
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