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30-01-2008, 10:44 PM
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30-01-2008, 10:46 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
Lovely shots, all three, but that Nuthatch shot definitely has the "wow" factor - stunning!! 
Mark H |
30-01-2008, 10:49 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
Love the nuthatch in particular
It's been good to see your progress with this lens. I'm seriously considering saving up for one myself. |
30-01-2008, 10:49 PM
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Nice shots but I agree the Nuthatch is special.
John D |
30-01-2008, 10:49 PM
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Some very nice shots particularly the like the Nuthatch. If I can capture this level of detail when my 100-400mm comes back from the Canon repair centre I will be a very happy bunny.
Gerry |
30-01-2008, 10:59 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
Fantastic, I'm very jealous. Purely out of interest did you use f8 or above? I'm struggling to get tack sharp with the pump at 400mm, thought that may be a number of factors, one of which is me! |
30-01-2008, 11:02 PM
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Thanks for the comments heres the same lens at distance. Its a shame the straggler is out of focus 
Regards
Colin  |
30-01-2008, 11:06 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
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Originally Posted by d70mpv  Fantastic, I'm very jealous. Purely out of interest did you use f8 or above? I'm struggling to get tack sharp with the pump at 400mm, thought that may be a number of factors, one of which is me! | Hope this helps
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400.0 mm
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30-01-2008, 11:09 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
That flight shot is a nice crisp image too Colin, well done
Mark H |
30-01-2008, 11:51 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
Colin, the initial three shots are all excellent, particularly the Nuthatch! We're all aware of the compression of the WAB gallery and your photo shows no obvious evidence- Lovely crisp and sharp pic. Secondly, the Canada Geese in flight shot is absolutely spot on. As you say, the straggler is just a notch out of focus, but this becomes such a minor thing when you look at how crisp and perfectly captured the rest are.
Seriously, extremely good photographs mate. Well done indeed.
Nick
P.s- How far were you, distance wise, from the first three shots? |
31-01-2008, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NickCantle
P.s- How far were you, distance wise, from the first three shots?
| I think the lens should focus from 1.8 mitres, I reckon the Nuthatch was on the limit. The other two shots maybe a foot or more further. Thanks for the comments. I really enjoy getting out with the Camera.
Regards
Colin |
31-01-2008, 01:24 AM
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Well done Colin some excellent shots there.
The Nuthatch is a beauty. You have certainly mastered your camera and lens to get shots to this standard. I look forward to seeing more
Roger |
31-01-2008, 12:57 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
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Originally Posted by d70mpv Fantastic, I'm very jealous. Purely out of interest did you use f8 or above? I'm struggling to get tack sharp with the pump at 400mm, thought that may be a number of factors, one of which is me! | ok maybe a silly question to some, but why is this lense refered to as "pump" please ? |
31-01-2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Muggsy ok maybe a silly question to some, but why is this lense refered to as "pump" please ? | because it zooms by sliding a grip in and out like a bike pump rather than twisting like a normal lens
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31-01-2008, 02:11 PM
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thankyou, presumably this would take a little getting used too ? say, after a 70-300. |
31-01-2008, 02:33 PM
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I'd often wondered that Muggsy. In fact I'm tempted to go and try one just to see what the pump is like  |
31-01-2008, 08:17 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
Great shots Colin, especially the Nuthatch. I trust you're now satisfied there's absolutely nothing wrong with your lens 
Jeff |
31-01-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffH Great shots Colin, especially the Nuthatch. I trust you're now satisfied there's absolutely nothing wrong with your lens
Jeff | Cheer's Jeff,
Looks like the camera and lens as quite a bit to offer, looks like I will have some fun discoverying over time what I can accomplish with this set up.
Regards
Colin |
31-01-2008, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by willing to learn Cheer's Jeff,
looks like I will have some fun discovering over time what I can accomplish with this set up.
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Colin | So will we! Great shots |
01-02-2008, 03:28 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
Aha, I see an F8 value in the EXIF. I'm off to Minsmere for the first time tomorrow (very excited about that) and am hoping to try out at F8, see if it improves my sharpness a little.
Oh, and improve my almost-non-existent camera skills
And biceps with the pump come to think of it |
01-02-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by d70mpv ....And biceps with the pump come to think of it | I doubt the pump will do much for your biceps but it will improve your trombone playing no end
Jeff |
01-02-2008, 05:30 PM
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| | | Re: Close Ups with 100-400mm
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Originally Posted by d70mpv Aha, I see an F8 value in the EXIF. I'm off to Minsmere for the first time tomorrow (very excited about that) and am hoping to try out at F8, see if it improves my sharpness a little.
Oh, and improve my almost-non-existent camera skills
And biceps with the pump come to think of it | be aware that although f8 will increase you depth of field meaning that more of the subject may be sharp, this will also lead to more confused/ less blurred backgrounds.
Better in my view to keep the apperture on f5.6 (if your pump is really unsharp at f5.6 it's faulty and needs to go see the nice men at canon) , and concentrate on keeping your shutter speeds up to remove movement blur - Camera wobble should be anissue if IS is turned on.
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04-02-2008, 12:41 PM
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Yes, I see your point about the isolation of the background but I found having shot at mostly F8 at Minsmere on Saturday that the sharpness was definitely better. I've seen this mentioned on a few occasions on other sites.
There's always the danger as you say of a dodgy lens. I'm trying not to think about that at the moment  Otherwise, yes, it'll be on its way to meet its maker. |
04-02-2008, 12:48 PM
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Many zooms improve in sharpness when stepped down, in fact most lenses do. I know for certain my Bigma does. For that reason I don't like using it wide open unless the light levels are so low it's the only option. The difference in DOF between F5.6 and F8 shouldn't be huge, the background should hopefully still be pretty clean, depending of course how close the background is!
Take this one for example taken a couple of days ago. The bird was only about 20ft away, with quite a busy background:  |
06-02-2008, 10:54 AM
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....My sentiments entirely. The difference in DOF at the distance I'm shooting is impossible to tell to my eye. Sharpness has improved but I make sure I now shoot only in the best possible light. Last Saturday was a lovely day and I had no probs at F8 with the 1.4 attached | | |
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