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17-05-2006, 10:28 AM
|  | Frozen | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somerset, UK
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| | | Got my first "L" :)
Hi folks,
My 70-200 f4 L arrived this morning so naturally it's raining but I did manage this shot from the back door of a couple of blackbirds. The lens was a bargain @ £400 inc. delivery.  |
17-05-2006, 10:36 AM
|  | Frozen | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: N.E. Lincolnshire
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Great stuff Andy, good action shot. What model is the lens mate - canon, sigma etc? |
17-05-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Great stuff Andy, good action shot. What model is the lens mate - canon, sigma etc? | That'll be a canon Alan, and by the way welcome to the 'L' club Andy. Looking at that shot I am going to have to get myself one to go with my 300 f4 L! |
17-05-2006, 10:48 AM
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an awful lot of what you just wrote might as well be latvian to me!!! but the photograph is superb and the rain drops actually add to it I think.
You lot are right tempting me to get myself to a digital SLR photography course - just so I know what you're on about!!!! |
17-05-2006, 11:02 AM
| | Frozen | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somerset, UK
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Sorry, guess I geeked it up a bit too much 
Yes it's a Canon, the "L" range are the pro lenses and the 70-200 f4 is the cheapest of the bunch but a great little walkaround lens. If anyone is interested in getting Canon glass cheap drop me a PM and I'll give you the details of the guy I used. He sells on ebay but will deal direct to avoid the fees - I saved £40 off his ebay price that way and about £100 off UK prices.
Now if only it would stop raining  |
17-05-2006, 11:05 AM
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Congrats L Glass Is The Best |
17-05-2006, 11:13 AM
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no please keep geeking, there's obviously plenty who do understand - and it makes me want to learn more - which is a good thing right?
See to me L is shorthand for Lapwing (well L. if you want to be precise). and 70-200 means you're rubbish at counting them and F4 well that's something to do with genetics and cross breeding....
It's a whole other world..... |
17-05-2006, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gill Catton no please keep geeking, there's obviously plenty who do understand - and it makes me want to learn more - which is a good thing right?
See to me L is shorthand for Lapwing (well L. if you want to be precise). and 70-200 means you're rubbish at counting them and F4 well that's something to do with genetics and cross breeding....
It's a whole other world..... | As Andy has stated 'L' is canons pro range of 'glass' (lenses), the 70-200 bit is the focal range, 70mm-200mm is a zoom lens and if someone quoted just a single number then it means the lens is fixed at that range.
The f4 bit is the lenses minimum aperture (how much light it lets in) the smaller that number the 'faster' the lens...... god i wish I never started now would you like me to go on? |
17-05-2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JM As Andy has stated 'L' is canons pro range of 'glass' (lenses), the 70-200 bit is the focal range, 70mm-200mm is a zoom lens and if someone quoted just a single number then it means the lens is fixed at that range.
The f4 bit is the lenses minimum aperture (how much light it lets in) the smaller that number the 'faster' the lens...... god i wish I never started now would you like me to go on? | Brilliant please do - if you have the time? Although maybe it should be a new thread? Camera talk Basics for beginners?!!! |
17-05-2006, 12:00 PM
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OK the f4 bit you can change manually, this will then decrease the shutter speed. for example f4 at 1/250 sec at iso200 (iso = film speed lower number better image quality) change the f4 to f5.6 and the shutter speed becomes 1/125 sec at iso 200. This is called 1 stop. Or you could change the iso to 100 and you have f4 at 1/125 sec, also 1 stop difference...... there are many combinations but essentially you need good light..... hope this helps or do you need more? |
17-05-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JM OK the f4 bit you can change manually, this will then decrease the shutter speed. for example f4 at 1/250 sec at iso200 (iso = film speed lower number better image quality) change the f4 to f5.6 and the shutter speed becomes 1/125 sec at iso 200. This is called 1 stop. Or you could change the iso to 100 and you have f4 at 1/125 sec, also 1 stop difference...... there are many combinations but essentially you need good light..... hope this helps or do you need more? | All these changes can be made on the camera? Or do you need to change lenses too?
hmmmmmm new shower or new camera............  |
17-05-2006, 12:39 PM
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Woo! What an excellent capture! I love that photogrpah!
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17-05-2006, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gill Catton All these changes can be made on the camera? Or do you need to change lenses too?
hmmmmmm new shower or new camera............ | These changes are made on camera....
Definately new camera! |
17-05-2006, 02:12 PM
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Sell the kids, hire the wife out, remortgage the house... do what ever it takes and buy 'L' glassware. There is no alternative btw remortgaging the house is about right for the 600mm f4 or 400mm f2.8 lol
even sandal wearing nikonites will be converted lmao |
17-05-2006, 03:03 PM
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I think the Sigma EX range has a lot to offer, the 150mm macro is outstandingly good and I seriously considered the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 but the Canon won simply because of weight. The problem is there's no turning back once you've seen the difference between consumer and pro glass.
I just need something to cover the wide end now and I'll be happy (for a while at least) with 3 lenses plus a 1.4x tc for the occasional extra reach. |
17-05-2006, 05:19 PM
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I had the chance to borrow a Canon 400mm L F4 from Digi (Come back...your sorely missed!!)
And I have to admit it was a superb lens..hardly had a bad shot out of it..Although I like my Bigma, I've not managed the quality (yet!) of that L glass. |
20-05-2006, 08:11 PM
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what a great picture !!!
I havent managed to afford any L glass yet but I hired the 300 f2.8 last year and it was one nice bit of kit
5D or L glass hmmm..... that is the question
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20-05-2006, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore what a great picture !!!
I havent managed to afford any L glass yet but I hired the 300 f2.8 last year and it was one nice bit of kit
5D or L glass hmmm..... that is the question | Go for the L glass then save for the 5d! Must admit to not missing full frame at all, unless you do a lot of wide angle stuff | | |
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