Re Felting Shed

[Dan Salter]

Hmmm...i have inherited two sheds with the new garden/veg patch...one for me one for the chicken house i have planned.

Both have leaky roof that needs re felting....got two rolls of the black sandy felt stuff....how do you put it on? is it stuck down? glued? or as it looks just pinned on all the way round?

any pro shed re felters with advice much apreciated?

Dan

[matt_xyz]

you normally roll it over the roof and nail it at the edges (nail the vertical face of the edges rather than the top of the roof, if you see what I mean). You can get proper felt roof tacks I think. Sometimes you need a couple of battens of wood across the top of the roof. These can usually be laid on top with nails going straight through them, through the felt, and into the roof of the shed.

I'm no expert, but I've patched one up in the past.

Matt

[eeyore]

normally you would stick it down with some back tarry stickly stuff then nail it arround the edges with clout head nails - but you can use no nails as the adhesive - although i would still nail it too.

if the roof is sloped makesure you run the felt down the roof rather than accross it , and if it is wider than a roll make sure you overlap the rolls by at least 2"

[Dan Salter]

Ok cool...ill try and get the proper tar adhesive but if not i think i have some no more nails.

Im a little confused about tolling sideways or vertical?

so.....if its wider than the roll the "join/seam/overlap" should run vertically down the roof not accross it right?

and yes matt cheers....ill nail it on the front edges not on top ( ill try and copy the existing felt...

oh yes? do you remove all the old felt i take it? or lay on top

Dan

[matt_xyz]

yep, the seams should run down the roof rather than across. It would probably be a good idea to get the old felt off.

Matt

[nightshade]

Run the seams horizontally,the length of the shed leaving a good 6"
at each end and on the lowest edge.Nail with felting nails every 12"
(10mm long galvanised big flat head) lay the next strip with a 4" overlap
to cover the first strip as for the first strip overlap the ends
Repeat until the final strip folds over the apex to overlap the two final strips
and forms a cap
Tuck the ends back under the eaves folding double and nail into place
Clear as mud,when you remove the old felting you should see the same pattern

[Dan Salter]

Thanks nightshade and no offence boys but this seems to make a little more sense watertightly and visually.
I guess both will work....ill see what they have done with the existing felt on it.


thanks for the info everyone....ill book it in for the weekend.

[matt_xyz]

Originally Posted by Dan Salter

Thanks nightshade and no offence boys but this seems to make a little more sense watertightly and visually.
I guess both will work....ill see what they have done with the existing felt on it.


thanks for the info everyone....ill book it in for the weekend.

actually yes, run them horizontally, that makes more sense. It's been a while since I did it

Matt

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by matt_xyz

actually yes, run them horizontally, that makes more sense. It's been a while since I did it

Matt

yeah your right horizontally it is - just make sure that you start at the bottom and work upwards overlapping each run - if you start at the top your shed will leak worse than a government department

i was thinking of doing a vertical surface like a wall - then you do run vertically as horizontally tends to peel off

[Dan Salter]

Yes no probs....

its all common sense was just curious if there was a special technique etc...i think the felt mum bought is more durable high quality one with built in underlay? ...wickes....
17.99 a roll....as apposed to the 5.99 shed felt so should be pretty good ! ill get the butchumen stuff too.

[eeyore]

incidentally to get the old stuff off you heat it up with a heat gun (note not a flame gun , a heat gun like is used for stripping paint) this softens the adhesive and enables you to pry it off with a scraper - wear gloves thoough cos you dont want hot tar adhering to your hands

[nightshade]

Just a mention, I have seen a nursery of '55 Pipistrelles in
a S.E.facing loosely rolled under, roofing felt edge

[Dan Salter]

Well i took full advantage of yesterdays glorious weather....roped in a college classmate to come help me....then my plans got even bigger....my larger shed i have inherited at the new house was badly positioned and shaded out half of my new veg patch....so i decided....ok...im going to move the small shed ( chicken house) put the large shed where that was etc.....

We emptied both and managed between us to move the tiny shed with ease....but the larger one weighed a tonne so i roped in a further 6 large guys ( neighbours and sons) and with all of us we managed to clean lift it and plop it on the bricks in its new home....result...

We then got stuck into refelting....i thought mum had bought the expensive stuff but it was the cheap stuff so i dont know how long it will last but we did a lovely job.

its a log lapped? latched?...erm.....its a tongue and groove shed (but not log cabin thick walled type)...so a bit more sturdy than a fence panel type shed....but...its still old and the bottom 2 slats are rotten all round the shed....do you know if you can buy the little tongue and groove slats seperately to replace rotten ones?

Also while in garden i notice the two existing bird boxes bot have a pair of blue tits in...taking in either nest material or food? ( surely no babies yet?)
and i also saw my first large and beautiful Peacock Butterfly of the year flitting about the brambles ! ( is this early too for them?)

Spent today buying wood/shed preserving stain and also tipping 28 bags of well rotted manure on my patch ! ...woo hoo...looks all set to go now !

Dan

[Wild-Woman]

Sounds like you're having fun Dan. So when are you planning on installing your chickens?

[Dan Salter]

Originally Posted by Wild-Woman

Sounds like you're having fun Dan. So when are you planning on installing your chickens?

In the pipeline but not yet....waiting for the national trust to put their boundary fence in so we know whats ours and whats not ours etc....then i can make plans.

Dan

[nightshade]

Hi Dan,busy day but very satisfiying I'll bet.
Re.the tongue and groove ,have a look round for
a local shed maker they will have the right stuff
failing that make up a panel with feather edge
boards to fit (narrow edge to the top) dont forget
the bats

[Seajay]

Originally Posted by nightshade

Run the seams horizontally,the length of the shed leaving a good 6"
at each end and on the lowest edge.Nail with felting nails every 12"
(10mm long galvanised big flat head) lay the next strip with a 4" overlap
to cover the first strip as for the first strip overlap the ends
Repeat until the final strip folds over the apex to overlap the two final strips
and forms a cap
Tuck the ends back under the eaves folding double and nail into place
Clear as mud,when you remove the old felting you should see the same pattern

Spot on Nightshade but where you overlap paint the seam with bitumen as it seals around where the felt tacks pierce the felt. (Not where you can see it but on the bottom layer of felt before you place 4" over it from the top layer if you get me)