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23-03-2008, 05:19 PM
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| | A shady garden As many shade loving plants and flowers ferns climbers etc please for a north facing garden! But want as much colour as poss throughout the year! So Starting with Aconites, Primroses, Pulmonaria, Violas and ending with Asters etc............Go! 
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23-03-2008, 05:29 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden How native do they need to be or don't they?
Got some books with those plants in but guess what?! - it's in the back box right at the bottom 
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23-03-2008, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tufftie How native do they need to be or don't they?
Got some books with those plants in but guess what?! - it's in the back box right at the bottom  | Native not important. Just attractive planting the year through. So plants such as foxgloves, blue poppies etc and don't forget the climber (not too vigorous)!!! 
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23-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Aucuba, choisya, vinca major and minor, fatsia japonica, mahonia japonica will think about more 
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23-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Climber book was to hand so - two non thugs for shady areas are akebias and schisandra. Just going to do a nose dive into a deep box 
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23-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Periwinkle, Hosta, Fatsia japonica, Hellebore, Mahonia, | 
23-03-2008, 05:54 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Before I forget! It's a small area so nothing too bushy. Thankyou 
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23-03-2008, 06:00 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Another climber is Lapageria...an evergreen from Chilli plant grows to 6'.
A few plants - wood anenomes (surprise, surprise!  ) trilliums, white rosebay, some geranium phaems i.e. mourning widow and dicentras. More to follow... 
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23-03-2008, 06:06 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden I do like Akebias with there chocolate fragrance! What about Shade loving Clematis? It's to cover an Arbour! 
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23-03-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jez I do like Akebias with there chocolate fragrance! What about Shade loving Clematis? It's to cover an Arbour!  | All clematis like their feet in the shade and faces in the sun...the best one would be a C. alpina 
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23-03-2008, 06:15 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Okay - here's the last of the perennials : - wood sage, lilliy of the valley, some campanulas, thre are some other types of geraniums too, woodruff and Glaucidium. I'm sure i'm missing something obvious and native 
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23-03-2008, 06:18 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Pulmoneria, astilbe, sedum, comfrey, forgetmenots, ligularia, astrantia, mint, lemon balm, angelica, euphorbia, hellebores, geranium, japanese anenome, crocosmia, sweet woodruff, epimedium.
These all grow well in my north facing shady garden. | 
23-03-2008, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hobble Pulmoneria, astilbe, sedum, comfrey, forgetmenots, ligularia, astrantia, mint, lemon balm, angelica, euphorbia, hellebores, geranium, japanese anenome, crocosmia, sweet woodruff, epimedium.
These all grow well in my north facing shady garden. | Thanks Hobble 
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23-03-2008, 06:22 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Just found a stunner-Anemonopsis Macrophyllia 
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23-03-2008, 07:03 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden My welsh poppies grow quite well in the shade too actually. Lovely flowers. I have plenty of seed around september if you want some 
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23-03-2008, 07:21 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez As many shade loving plants and flowers ferns climbers etc please for a north facing garden! But want as much colour as poss throughout the year! So Starting with Aconites, Primroses, Pulmonaria, Violas and ending with Asters etc............Go!  | Galium odoratum, Myrrhis odorata, Filipendula ulmaria, Anthemis punctata cupiana, and Sarcococca.
Filipendula is I think the best bee plant for total shade, though it does need staking in exposed spots.
The Anthemis is usually advertised for sunny locations but its grey foliage actually develops better colour in the shade - does need a well drained soil and best replaced every two or three years as it gets woody - easy to grow from cuttings though. Plant next to a path so the foliage scent gets released when you brush by it.
Gallium is near indestructible and the Myrrh is very adaptable, has edible pods and shoots which taste of sugary liquarice; though black fly can be an annoyance.
Sarcococa is the best winter scent IMO.
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23-03-2008, 07:28 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Following on from Galanthus - I'll dig up some of my mourning widows for you. Got them from Sissinghurst quite a few years ago now and they've cross pollinated so there are some really lovely colours.
Shade loving annual - Rehmannia elata  more tomorrow now...
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23-03-2008, 07:38 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden heres one to tryits flower is small and doesnt look much during the day but at night the frgrance is fantastic is called the nicotene plant an annual also try millionbells for pots as they dont like to much sun also lillys and if want want some differnt ornimental cabbage plants brunnera hellebone hostas
heres a tip if its anew garden bottel of wine deck chair note pad sit in garden all day and record were sunis at 10am 12am 3pm and 6pm you will have abetter idea of what goes where | 
23-03-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by galanthus My welsh poppies grow quite well in the shade too actually. Lovely flowers. I have plenty of seed around september if you want some  | Thanks for the offer, Welsh poppy i already love and have! What a lovely gesture Lily though theres somebody else who may take you up on the offer?
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23-03-2008, 09:20 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Oh well done you lot  !. After 4 years of working to get the back garden as wildlife friendly as poss, my new project is for the front which only gets a couple of hours evening sun in he summer months. This thread has already given me plenty of choice to be looking into - good work and thanks  . | 
23-03-2008, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonfly heres one to tryits flower is small and doesnt look much during the day but at night the frgrance is fantastic is called the nicotene plant an annual also try millionbells for pots as they dont like to much sun also lillys and if want want some differnt ornimental cabbage plants brunnera hellebone hostas
heres a tip if its anew garden bottel of wine deck chair note pad sit in garden all day and record were sunis at 10am 12am 3pm and 6pm you will have abetter idea of what goes where | This sounds the perfect garden..Sitting with bottle of wine in the sun    | 
24-03-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dragonfly heres one to tryits flower is small and doesnt look much during the day but at night the frgrance is fantastic is called the nicotene plant an annual also try millionbells for pots as they dont like to much sun also lillys and if want want some differnt ornimental cabbage plants brunnera hellebone hostas
heres a tip if its anew garden bottel of wine deck chair note pad sit in garden all day and record were sunis at 10am 12am 3pm and 6pm you will have abetter idea of what goes where | Thanks for the tip, it's a great help! 
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24-03-2008, 06:16 PM
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| | | Re: A shady garden It might also be worth looking on the Plants for a Future website 
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26-03-2008, 02:08 AM
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| | | Re: A shady garden Thanks Cotham marble for your help.
I think i'm narrowing the planting down??  As theres so many to choose from!
But I think i'll go with these:-
At the front spotted dead nettle (lamium Maculatum), Bugle (Ajuga Reptans), whilst in the middle rows Bleeding Hearts (Dicentra Spectabilis) I know from my previous garden make a great companion with Euphorbia Fireglow and Hellebores at either ends! So would Aquilegia's and the Welsh Poppy which will quite happy self seed  and will make great companions with the Dicentra and Wooded Cranesbill (Geranium Sylvaticum) for a vibrant splash of bright Purple! foliage from Northern Maiden Hair Fern (Adiantum Pedatum), Waldsteinia's to compliment the Welsh Poppies bright cheer of yellow and at the back Foxgloves I think i'll stick with (Digitalis Purpurea) as these will compliment also The pink pendants of the Bleeding Hearts. As for my Arbouring Climbers-Clematis Early Spring followed by Wood Vetch (Vicia Sylvatica). All of these in an area 10ft By 7ft! Can it be done?!? Can't wait to find out.
Thanks for all your help
Cheers- Jez
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