Gamekeeping

[Deer Stalker]

Originally Posted by eeyore

that said i agree with you about deer stalking (as opposed to deer hunts) tho i wouldnt use a 22 rimfire on anything bigger than a fox - for deer i would favour something with a lot more energy like a .222 mag frangible or even a .338

Its worth pointing out that in England a Wales it is illeagal to shoot all species of dear, even Muntjac (but there was talk about lowering the minimum calibre for this species to .222), with anything less than a .240 calibre rifle & a muzzle energy of 1,700ft/lb. Bullets must be soft or hollow-nosed.
But in Scotland the law is slightly different. Restrictions are on ammunition rather than the rifle & the minimum calibre for Roe is lower, so the minimum for Roe would be .222 Remington & all other deer in Scotland (Red, Sika & Fallow) must also be .240

[stripee]

Apologies about above comment, I was puzzling about the photo, probably this old laptopWhat is the position about doing these activities on the common/other landowners'land/woods?

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Deer Stalker

Its worth pointing out that in England a Wales it is illeagal to shoot all species of dear, even Muntjac (but there was talk about lowering the minimum calibre for this species to .222), with anything less than a .240 calibre rifle & a muzzle energy of 1,700ft/lb. Bullets must be soft or hollow-nosed.
But in Scotland the law is slightly different. Restrictions are on ammunition rather than the rifle & the minimum calibre for Roe is lower, so the minimum for Roe would be .222 Remington & all other deer in Scotland (Red, Sika & Fallow) must also be .240

nice one deer stalker - I havent shot deer for a long while and clearly am not quite conversant with the law on this - if i do need to in future i'll bear this in mind.

re stripees question you need to have permision of the landowner to shoot on their land - as regards common land some people stand on their common rights but this may be legally dodgy and i certainly wouldnt advise it - nearly all commons big enoughto support deer are managed by somebody and a wise man would get this managers permission before engaging in any shooting.

I don't hunt for sport - so in my case all my deer control has been at the behest of conservation managers who have despaired of finding any other way of stopping the deer from disrupting the woodland/heathland ecosystem

and as regards LLs photo he's wearing a camoflage hood / face cover - either that or hes secretly an ent

[Deer Stalker]

Originally Posted by stripee

What is the position about doing these activities on the common/other landowners'land/woods?

As Eeyore said, you need the Land-owners permmission.

[little-lloyd]

Call me a poacher if you like but i regully in the winter months go ferreting on a piece of common land

[Deer Stalker]

Originally Posted by little-lloyd

Call me a poacher if you like but i regully in the winter months go ferreting on a piece of common land

I was thinking of deer still.

Not sure how ferreting stands, might be the same though..........

[little-lloyd]

Dont think it matters about the animal you still need to check with the landowner, but most commons are very popular with walkers etc so shooting may not be ok.

[BritainsTarzan]

What rifle do you have little lloyd? have you got a link to a picture or anything?

[Oscar2006]

Originally Posted by BritainsTarzan

What rifle do you have little lloyd? have you got a link to a picture or anything?

Come on folks, there are enough sites for rifles gun clubs and shooting without turning this into one as well.

It's the love of British Wildlife - "alive" that most of us are interested in, not the tools used to knock it off for the plate.

[BritainsTarzan]

sorry,
Was just being curious