nother chalk grassland plant for ID please

[clb100]

This is another plant found in chalk grassland this week.



I only have a leaf and one fruit. There were a few of these mostly smaller that in the photo in short grass. This leaf was part of a larger plant in more lush longer grass.

The fruit has 5 sepals and looks to be composed of 3 segments - there are 3 distinct lines radiating from the base.

Any suggestions?

[Dorts]

Possibly a Sorbus sp.
Why don't you photograph the whole plant/tree in-situ? For ID purposes it would make it much easier to make to a correct determination.
I fully appreciate that it's not always possible, but it would certainly help, both yourself and others following these threads.
Dorts.

[clb100]

Dorts,

Thanks for your comments. It is what I would normally would do. But it wouldn't have helped here.

The plant was buried within thick grass and all that was visible were a couple of leaves. It wasn't immediately obvious initially that the fruit belonged to the plant and dropped as soon as it was disturbed. I tried to separate the plant from the grass but the plant was in poor nick and I couldn't have freed it to show more without it falling apart.

I appreciate it was along shot but I was hoping someone would immediately recognise the leaf and fruit as something common (which I expect it is).

[Dorts]

Originally Posted by clb100

Dorts,
Thanks for your comments. It is what I would normally would do. But it wouldn't have helped here.

The plant was buried within thick grass and all that was visible were a couple of leaves. It wasn't immediately obvious initially that the fruit belonged to the plant and dropped as soon as it was disturbed. I tried to separate the plant from the grass but the plant was in poor nick and I couldn't have freed it to show more without it falling apart.

I appreciate it was along shot but I was hoping someone would immediately recognise the leaf and fruit as something common (which I expect it is).

Thanks. Point taken.
Dorts.

[clb100]

I found a better example of the plant today (but in a different location) so was able to both photograph the whole plant and to identify it.

It is Hairy Violet (Viola hirta).





It is much larger than the V hirta I have seen before.