ID needed

[black_tie]

Can anyone id this? I found it on an allotment in North Yorkshire in mid June. A very healthy specimen, is it wild or an exotic?

Many thanks,
bt

[Mele]

I don't know, but the leaves look a bit like a betony (Stachys spp.) so it might be S.macrantha?
Nice though

[Hedera]

Definitely betony -the spiky calyx is a giveaway.

[Dorts]

I think Mel has got this one, Stachys micrantha, possibly the cultivar 'Superba'.
A popular garden perrenial, only very rarely recorded growing 'wild'.
Dorts.

[Mele]

Wee typo Dorts....Stachys macranthra...
I don't know my garden plants, but can see it helps sometimes.

Don't want to take this off-thread, but how do we define 'wild', with respects to plant recording?

M

[Dorts]

Originally Posted by Mele

Wee typo Dorts....Stachys macranthra... I don't know my garden plants, but can see it helps sometimes.
Don't want to take this off-thread, but how do we define 'wild', with respects to plant recording?
M

Thanks for spotting that Mel, 'macrantha' of course it should be. (Not the first 'typo' and won't be the last, but always good to get specific names spelt correctly.)

'Wild' strictly means, any plant that has found it's own way to it's location, without the help of man's hand.
Dorts.

[Mele]

Hmmm, so in practice it is hard to define many archeophytes or neophytes as ever being 'wild' then.
M