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17-08-2011, 07:17 PM
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| | | ID : Plymouth plant species. Hello,
During last night's first leg of the British Fireworks Championships at Plymouth I found a large crop of an umbellifer type plant on Staddon Heights. It appeared to look similar to Longleaf in the Collins but not quite. Is anyone able to recognise this species and tell me what it is?
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17-08-2011, 07:23 PM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Not an umbellifer- Dwarf Elder, Sambucus ebulus, I believe. | 
17-08-2011, 07:27 PM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Brilliant, thanks. I have just checked that up and that is the one. I did consider the possibility it might not be an umbellifer. Knowing now, it makes sense as it had the feel and appearance of Elderflower.
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17-08-2011, 07:29 PM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. I though Common Valerian.
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17-08-2011, 07:35 PM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Try Sambucus Ebulus, Danewort or Dwarf Elder. I saw it years ago but it looks right here too.Supposed to grow where the blood of Danes has been shed-A likely story. | 
17-08-2011, 08:03 PM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Oh, what a nice spot 
Good shots too of such pretty flowers.
I just read the Wikipedia entry on Danewort. Apparently it has 2 possible derivations. It was thought to grow on Danish battle sites. Another possibility is that 'dane' is from an archaic word for diarrhoea. And raw elder berries are certainly cathartic.
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17-08-2011, 08:16 PM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. In North and East Hants, where it is localy quite common, it seems to have followed the Monks and is found around their Monasteries and Abbeys, and later the Manor Houses.
In most places it is a relic of cultivation.
Dorts.
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18-08-2011, 05:30 AM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Never seen it. I don't think I'd clocked it was an herbaceous elder not a shrub. It does look like a bit like an umbellifer at first glance, from the photos. Must put this on my hit-list for next year. Mel
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18-08-2011, 10:46 AM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Quote:
Originally Posted by Mele Never seen it. I don't think I'd clocked it was an herbaceous elder not a shrub. It does look like a bit like an umbellifer at first glance, from the photos. Must put this on my hit-list for next year. Mel | It's a great plant Mel. Very rarely found away from habitation or ruins. Often grows beneath old walls. Only just coming into full-flower. Not native.
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18-08-2011, 11:48 AM
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| | | Re: ID : Plymouth plant species. Hmm, OK possibly hit list for this year. Am due another visit to Kent, imminently, so may check with local contact (who has the most recent atlas). Also due trip a to Worcs, so can check there too. Oh, and (embarrassed to say) no idea if it grows near here! Must really get myself together and go seeking. Thanks Dorts
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