Vibrant Yellow flowers in brook for ID

[sunnydale]

Hi all

I've walked by Burbage Brook dozens of times, yet I've never seen this plant below (at least, not in flower) before!

From a distance, I thought it was Marsh Marigold - but I knew they finished flowering ages ago.

The closer I got, I noticed the lovely orange colour on the petals!

Couldn't get a close up I'm afraid, as I didn't fancy getting my boots full of water!




Thanks,

Tracey

[IanS]

Hi
Its Blood-drop-emlets. Introduced from N. America and found mainly in the north of the country.

Ian

[Dorts]

Tracey, isn't it a lovely plant?
I'd say it's Monkeyflower - Mimulus guttatus x. Not native, but has been naturalised for a very long time.
Your plant, because it has spots on the lip is of hybrid origin.
Blood-drop-emlets is spotted all over with many spots of varying sizes and is far less common and could be the other parent in this cross. (but I'm probably splitting hairs, and Ian could well be right.)
Dorts.

[sunnydale]

Originally Posted by Dorts

Tracey, isn't it a lovely plant?

Yes, beautiful! I was leading a small group on a walk on Sunday and we all stood looking at it for a while, trying to figure out what it might be!

Just wish I could have got a nice close up shot of the lovely flowers.

Please excuse my ignorance but do you think it's seeds would germinate in my dampish garden?...or would it need to be grown in a pond?

I'd love some, that's for sure!

Tracey

[Dorts]

I'm sure the seeds would germinate, definitely worth a try.
Dorts.

[ChrelizG]

If you live in Bakewell -

we were camping in Youlgrave just over a week ago & saw large clumps of monkey flowers in the stream at Alport. We'd walked down along the R Lathkill, crossed the road at Alport & just started along the path by the R Bradford. The stream passes gardens at that point, so we weren't sure whether the plants were recent 'escapes' or not, but they were very striking (but without the red patches shown in your photo)

[Dorts]

As Mimulus is now such a common garden plant in its many forms, more are being found in the wild.

I have just had a look at distribution maps for Monkey Flower and Blood-drop-emlets.
Mimulus agg. (Monkey-flower in its various forms), is very widespread.
Mimulus guttatus (Monkeyflower in its pure form) is also very widespread, but less so.
Mimulus luteus (Blood-drop-emlets) has greatly decreased and is now very uncommon.
Mimulus cupreus x guttatus x luteus (the hybrid between the two previous) is even rarer with less than half a dozen recent records.
Dorts.

[sunnydale]

Originally Posted by ChrelizG

If you live in Bakewell -

we were camping in Youlgrave just over a week ago & saw large clumps of monkey flowers in the stream at Alport. We'd walked down along the R Lathkill, crossed the road at Alport & just started along the path by the R Bradford. The stream passes gardens at that point, so we weren't sure whether the plants were recent 'escapes' or not, but they were very striking (but without the red patches shown in your photo)

Chreliz, I know where you mean. I'm going on holiday at the weekend and wont have time to get there before I go! With a bit of luck, there'll be seeds to collect when I get back!

It's lovely down Bradford Dale.

Tracey

[Mele]

Hi Dorts....
So, I was thinking the plants I saw in Upper Teesdale were hybrids but now unsure.

Mel

[Dorts]

To be honest Mel, I don't think a great deal of work has been done on some of the many populations now popping up.

Here's Distribution Map for the hybrid:
BSBI Maps Scheme: Hectad Map A hybrid monkeyflower

Here for Blood-drop-emlets.
BSBI Maps Scheme: Hectad Map Blood-drop-emlets
Which you can see has decreased dramatically in recent years.

And here for Mimulus agg. (which covers just about anything and everything that doesn't quite key-out to species).
BSBI Maps Scheme: Hectad Map Monkey-flower agg.

So, as you can see, most recent records are rather non-specific, as are most of the plants that we find.
Dorts.