Orchid for ID and a unknown

[beech]

Got these two while out on the mooch, the red one I think is an orchid ? I dont know about the second one but cant remember seeing a flower like it before


Thanks

[Dorts]

The first is Dark Red Helleborine - Epipactis atrorubens.
Nice find beech, where abouts did you find it?

Second is Wood Sage - Teucrium scorodonia .
Dorts.

[beech]

I came across 15 to 20 of these at a place in North Lancashire its part of a national nature reserve so with them definately being orchids they will be known about I would think. I can supply a more detailed location if you require it. Its amazing the different plants and insects you see when looking for bumble bees. Never really noticed before

[Dorts]

Originally Posted by beech

I came across 15 to 20 of these at a place in North Lancashire its part of a national nature reserve so with them definately being orchids they will be known about I would think. I can supply a more detailed location if you require it. Its amazing the different plants and insects you see when looking for bumble bees. Never really noticed before

The general location is fine for this orchid. It's as common in N. Lancs as anywhere. I'm sure it will be known about on the reserve.
You'll make several people on here very jealous to have 'stumbled' across so many, including me!
Dorts.

[beech]

Thanks for the ID dorts .... these will probably be the last I ever find