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03-11-2009, 09:00 AM
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| | | Flower for ID
These flowers were growing at the foot of the cliffs at Lulworth cove. I feel I should know the ID but am afraid I cannot recall it. The flower has a pedestal for insects to land on and opens to reveal the stamen etc when this happens. 
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03-11-2009, 09:02 AM
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Looks like Common Restharrow to me 
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03-11-2009, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisR  Looks like Common Restharrow to me | Thank you Chris. I have checked up and the habitat and description fits nicely with your ID.
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03-11-2009, 11:48 AM
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Seen in the same location as the Common Restharrow (Bottom of the cliffs at Lulworth Cove). 
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03-11-2009, 12:32 PM
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Common Fleabane?
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03-11-2009, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisR Common Fleabane? | Thanks again Chris. Spot on again  . It is interesting to learn that this plant was once used to treat dysentry.
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13-11-2009, 01:53 PM
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Seen in Oct on Portsdown Hill, Portsmouth 
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13-11-2009, 02:12 PM
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Probably Sea Aster Aster tripolium |
13-11-2009, 02:28 PM
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These were on Portsdown hill, about 300' above sea level and on chalky downs. Is this still OK for the Sea Aster?
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13-11-2009, 02:36 PM
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I cant be certain but think it is because it appears to be hairless and the leaves look smooth in outline. |
13-11-2009, 04:26 PM
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Thanks Jason.
I have looked at the original image to check the detail features you have described nd confim it is hairless and smooth. Thanks so much for your ID
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13-11-2009, 07:44 PM
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I believe this is Greater Knapweed (Centaurea scabiosa). Could someone please confirm. 
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13-11-2009, 08:02 PM
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Hi Peter, the leaf is more distinctive on GK than the flower to me do you have a picture of one?Jason |
13-11-2009, 08:18 PM
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Alas I do not have more of this plant but I have provided a close up of the base of the flower. It looks like a leaf is/has formed on the stem below the flower.
Sorry if this is not enough but it is all I have.
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13-11-2009, 08:29 PM
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Greater Knapweed is more of a chalky type plant,was it from Portsdown Hill as well ,because it is present there.I'm sure somebody else will know this straight from the flower though. |
13-11-2009, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason Claxton Greater Knapweed is more of a chalky type plant,was it from Portsdown Hill as well ,because it is present there.I'm sure somebody else will know this straight from the flower though. | Yes it was growing at the summit. Thanks Jason.
Forgot to post the close up  
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13-11-2009, 08:52 PM
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Looks good to me,have a look at the leaf as well next time you see it |
15-11-2009, 01:57 PM
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I would confirm Greater knapweed as the outer florets are rayed more than the common one is. |
15-11-2009, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedera I would confirm Greater knapweed as the outer florets are rayed more than the common one is. | Thank you. It's nice for me to get at least one right .
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21-11-2009, 07:22 PM
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22-11-2009, 05:45 AM
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1 Common Toadflax
2 Common Centaury
3 Tall (Golden) Melilot for me as keel + wings of flower appear to be equal
4 Wild Basil
5 Field Scabious
6 Devil'sbit Scabious
As a general rule I would try to include more of foliage + structure of plant to assist ID, just a flower isn't always enough! |
22-11-2009, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by aeshna5 1 Common Toadflax
2 Common Centaury
3 Tall (Golden) Melilot for me as keel + wings of flower appear to be equal
4 Wild Basil
5 Field Scabious
6 Devil'sbit Scabious
As a general rule I would try to include more of foliage + structure of plant to assist ID, just a flower isn't always enough! | Thank you Aeshna. I take your point and will try to ensure I get as much of the plant as posible in future.
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