Go Back   Wild About Britain > British Wildlife > Wildflowers, Plants & Tree Forums > Wildflowers

» June 2012

S M T W T F S
2728293031 1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

» Stats

Members: 50,186
Threads: 82,431
Posts: 853,782
Top Poster: glsammy (15,069)
Welcome to our newest member, newy
Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-06-2007, 07:12 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Hello, Can anyone suggest a good quality wildflower ID handbook of a rucksack friendly size please. I had one (name I can't remember) which I lost in our house move but it wasn't very good. The images weren't clear enough and the written descriptions didn't compensate. Any suggestions much appreciated thank you.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-06-2007, 07:36 PM
JennyS's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SW Ireland
Posts: 1,669
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Hi chillees
The Wildflower Key by Francis Rose, updated 1996 by Clare O'Reilly is the best I've come across so far - good illustrations too.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-06-2007, 07:42 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Thanks for that
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-06-2007, 07:50 PM
Paul mabbott's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sheffield, FPRSY
Posts: 7,655
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

There was quite a debate on flower keys a month or two back - worth searching for unless someone remembers what it was called .... I wouldn't like to make a recommendation because (see the thread) this tends to be quite a personal thing .... nothing wrong with Rose if you get on with it.
__________________
Ladybird Survey
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-06-2007, 07:56 PM
Pete W's Avatar
Member of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sawbridgeworth, Herts.
Posts: 295
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Agree thanks, just ordered it
__________________
All the best, Pete
My Website
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 07:05 AM
Hornbeam's Avatar
Officer of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bishops Stortford
Posts: 620
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Fitter, Fitterr and Blamey is the best rucksack book. Rose is ok if you can be bothered to work laborously through the keys. It only covers British plants though and is not good on European plants that we are finding more and more as casuals or introductions. I use Fitter in the field, Rose at home for confirmation and the heavy Blamey and Grey-Wilson when all else fails. When "all else fails" fails I ask WAB and someone always knows
__________________
Stort Valley Wild
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 09:57 AM
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Suffolk Coast
Posts: 2,100
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Rose needs a moderate understanding of botany to cope with the keys.
I'm also not impressed with the colours.
Keys often need fruit and/or roots for idnetification, which are
not always around!

***I think it is awful for beginners.***

Blamey, Fitter & Fitter have two books, broadly similar,
one by domino guides and other by collins.
(Pictures are very similar as Blamey is the artist for both
and IMO better pictures than Rose)

The domino guide has great little distribution maps which
can be VERY helptful, but has no keys (apart from within
families) and is only Britain.
(note comment above about drift of european species to
UK).
ISBN 0 7136 5944 0

The collins guide is smaller, so more rucksack friendly,
and has a good simple guide to getting the right pages
by using flower shape, petal number, inflorescence shape
and colour. It is also remarkably rain tolerant !!
5th edition 96 ISBN 0 00 2197 15 4
? there is a later edition?

I have also just bought
"A new key to wild flowers"
by Hayward and Hickey, from the Field Studies Council.
ISBN 1 85153 285 4
buy direct from the FSC (google)
(about 16 smackers)

Initial impression is great, because the key has simple line
drawings and seems easy to follow for non specialist
(it grew out of teaching amateurs).
It is NOT a picture matching book with text though.
In fact is is B&W only, but a great addition.

Finally, and really a photographic record of FANTASTIC
quality there is Roger Phillips'
"Wild Flowers of Britain"
ISBN 0 330 25183 x
but didn't a thread in the lat couple of weeks say it was
out of print?
Sometimes photos seem so much better than drawings
and sometimes vice versa.

As a _first_ book I think the Blamey & Fitter Collins guide
is the best. Others will disagree ;-)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 10:02 AM
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Suffolk Coast
Posts: 2,100
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

PS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornbeam View Post
heavy Blamey and Grey-Wilson when all else fails. When "all else fails" fails I ask WAB and someone always knows
The illustrated Flora of Brit and N Europe
Blamey and Grey-Wilson, has been out of print for some
time I think. Another Domino Book
ISBN0 340 40170 2

My copy came from the States via Abebooks after 12 months
of having a request in, and cost MORE than the original, even
without postage ;-(
Persaonlly I don't think it adds a lot to the Domino guide
mentioned before.

I agree about WAB - fantastic source!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 10:33 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

Many thanks to all of you for these suggestions, especially Hobjob with all the ISBNs, much appreciated. What a great website
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 01:20 PM
Wig Wig is offline
Active Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Rhondda Cynon Taff
Posts: 64
Re: Suggestions for Wildflower ID handbook

I have no idea if it's any good compared to others mentioned but I have
Collins Wild Flowers Which is pocket sized (11cm x 8cm) 240 pages and is full of drawn illustrations, Marjorie Blamey & Richard Fitter 350 species. The new edition has photographs aswell apparently. I got mine in a charity shop for 50p.

It really just identifies the plants so you can read further on them later when you get home. It gives one line about the plants history and growing location. For example

Vipers Bugloss
Echium Vulgare A big stand of this bugloss with its brilliant blue flowers is one of the most gorgeous sights in British flora. It grows on dry bare spots on light soils, esp chalk and flowers June - September.

Common Valerian
Valeriana officinalis is a tall plant with pinnate leaves and conspicuous clusters of small pink flowers that appear June - August. It grows in both damp and dry woods and grassland. It's root used to be regarded as a cure for hysteria and other nervous conditions.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply  

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

» New Wildlife Posts

Go to first new post Fungi for ID
Last post by htcdude
Today 10:50 PM
3 Replies, 52 Views
Go to first new post Herring Gulls nesting on...
Last post by Insomniak
Today 10:49 PM
43 Replies, 912 Views
Go to first new post You see loads of them...
Last post by ~T~
Today 10:48 PM
7 Replies, 111 Views
Go to first new post Damselfly id please
Last post by Bob Fleming
Today 10:47 PM
1 Replies, 2 Views
Go to first new post Caterpillar with two...
Last post by UB4 gardener
Today 10:46 PM
1 Replies, 2 Views
Go to first new post is this rosy garlic ?
Last post by Rambling Rob
Today 10:41 PM
0 Replies, 1 Views
Go to first new post help please with feeding...
Last post by Hedgehoggy
Today 10:40 PM
3 Replies, 38 Views
Go to first new post Opilione for ID please
Last post by Hedera
Today 10:39 PM
3 Replies, 60 Views

» New Environment Posts

Go to first new post "Earth In Crisis As...
Last post by Malkie
Yesterday 10:15 AM
12 Replies, 637 Views
Little plastic bags
Last post by Trekkie
27-05-2012 03:16 PM
9 Replies, 792 Views
Why Wind Won't Work!
Last post by Lancashire Lad
25-05-2012 11:17 AM
5 Replies, 434 Views
Severn Barrage (and...
Last post by zail
20-05-2012 05:32 PM
7 Replies, 647 Views

» New Activity Posts

Go to first new post Coast to Coast Walk -...
Last post by foxy mars
Today 02:35 PM
130 Replies, 4,006 Views
Go to first new post Coast to Coast Walk in 9...
Last post by foxy mars
Today 01:45 PM
0 Replies, 33 Views
Go to first new post Moths on Greater...
Last post by Closescapes
Today 10:59 AM
6 Replies, 145 Views
Go to first new post Osprey Hide in the making
Last post by speyghillie
Today 09:44 AM
122 Replies, 5,801 Views

» New Community Posts

Go to first new post Check when uploading to...
Last post by FungiJohn
Yesterday 06:53 PM
0 Replies, 28 Views
Go to first new post Spammers!
Last post by Deb London
Yesterday 01:53 PM
8 Replies, 198 Views
Go to first new post Ivinghoe Beacon and...
Last post by Pete Collins
31-05-2012 07:16 AM
5 Replies, 254 Views
Planet Earth Live ...
Last post by davedotcom
30-05-2012 07:40 AM
27 Replies, 1,359 Views

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:53 PM.


Copyright Wild About Britain 2009

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120