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24-10-2011, 07:39 AM
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| | | Hawthorns for my garden. We've just removed a rather large overgrown non-native bush from our garden and want to a row of hawthorn in its place.
I want to ensure that the hawthorn is truly British and found locally. I'd be grateful if someone could give me the Latin names of hawthorn we should be looking for and how , if possible to discover their origin .Also how many whips for a 4-5 metre length for a good thick hedge?
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24-10-2011, 07:51 AM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Trawl your local nurseries for locally grown stock of Cratageus monogyna, there're plenty of suppliers ont' interweb.
Bare root stock are the cheapest, cell or container grown will probably be more dependable with no deaths.
Plant in a double line a foot apart, plants eighteen inches apart and staggered. I'll leave the maths to you!
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24-10-2011, 08:52 AM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild-Woman We've just removed a rather large overgrown non-native bush from our garden and want to a row of hawthorn in its place.
I want to ensure that the hawthorn is truly British and found locally. I'd be grateful if someone could give me the Latin names of hawthorn we should be looking for and how , if possible to discover their origin .Also how many whips for a 4-5 metre length for a good thick hedge? | Bare root hawthorn hedging is a rather low cost product, I doubt there's a large trade in imported product, although it's possible that UK growers may be buying in gel propagated clones to grow on. In terms of ensuring a definitive genetic UK inheritance that probably is not achievable and in any event Crataegus monogyna is a widespread European species; Crataegus laevigata has a smaller distribution but not usually available as bare root whips. Most online suppliers say if they grow their own and will list advice on planting density relative to plant size and pack numbers - e.g Great offers on RHS Hedging Plants, Bare Root Hedging, Instant Hedge from Hedge Nursery but shop around for best deals.
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02-11-2011, 11:42 AM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. I have a mixed native hedge and it's great. Hawthorn is a wonderful plant. Try to prune from very early on to keep it compact and thick and you'll be rewarded. | 
02-11-2011, 11:56 AM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild-Woman We've just removed a rather large overgrown non-native bush from our garden and want to a row of hawthorn in its place.
I want to ensure that the hawthorn is truly British and found locally. I'd be grateful if someone could give me the Latin names of hawthorn we should be looking for and how , if possible to discover their origin .Also how many whips for a 4-5 metre length for a good thick hedge? | Depending on the size of the hedge a mixed hedge may attract more species
and variety, extending the season, some flowering earlier and some later the dog roses form a cascade of pinky-white.
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02-11-2011, 10:31 PM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Jules, it's worth noting that the non-British plants used for roadside hedging by councils etc. is much earlier flowering than our native Hawthorn, often flowering in Feb-March rather than the usual 'May'.
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03-11-2011, 04:35 PM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Great that you're ripping out the non native stuff and replacing it with good ol' british stock!! Well done for that. I'm growing mine from seed but it will take longer to grow this way.If you want to have some fun and try this with a few plants,go out and pick a small amount of hawthorn berries now and put them in a medium sized pot half full of normal compost,put you're berries in and then cover them with a little more compost and then just leave them outside to over-winter.Next march uncover the berries and take out the seeds and start sowing them in small pots using seed compost.They should germinate after a long period of cold.Good luck with it!! | 
03-11-2011, 04:47 PM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Growing from seed is fine but if you are replacing a hedge you really want it to get on with it. I put my whips in at about 30deg. and they shoot all along their length instant laid hedge.
I use a plastic tub (which my wife does not like much), and I put all my wild seeds and woody cuttings in to get them to root.
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03-11-2011, 05:58 PM
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| | | Re: Hawthorns for my garden. Thanks all. Is there any need for me to condition the earth once the root of the monster non-native is out eg compost? I know hawthorn is robust but I wonder whether the soil will be fairly acidy where the evergreen had spread .
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