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26-07-2011, 05:56 PM
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| | | Unidentified Mint Family | 
26-07-2011, 06:31 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Mint Family I can see why you thought mint family, but it's a figwort (Scrophulariaceae). The leaf shape looks like Water Figwort, Scrophularia auriculata, rather than the more pointed leaves of Common Figwort, S. nodosa, but would be good to see more + whether the stems are winged or not ( a feature of the former species). | 
26-07-2011, 06:33 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Mint Family I'd say it's Common Figwort - Scrophularia nodosa from what I can see. Very widespread on damp, cultivated and waste grount.
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26-07-2011, 07:56 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Mint Family Since your posts I have had a look at other images of Common Figwort on the internet and it appears to be that plant as described.
Thanks for your help.
If I take some more photos I will post them. The stem is definately square and the 'corners' are somewhat extended as if the sides have been squashed in a bit.
Mike | 
26-07-2011, 09:41 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Mint Family Mike, I've had a longer look at your plant and I'm slightly baffled.
The leaves, as Aeshna5 pointed out, are rounded at the ends like Water Figwort, but the leaves have very short stalks as in Common F. The flowers are large enough for Water F.
Common F. is by far the 'smelliest' of the two which fits your plant.
As hybrids don't exist as far as I'm aware, it must be one of the two. A few more pics may help, close-up of stem and flower would be good. Cross-section of stem would be brilliant.
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26-07-2011, 10:20 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Mint Family I think this has got to be Water Figwort. Apart from the rounded leaves, you can also see the broad pale sepal margins in photo 1. Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_Howles The stem is definately square and the 'corners' are somewhat extended as if the sides have been squashed in a bit. | Winged stems like this also point to Water Figwort. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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