Star shaped flower Identification please

[reefbirder]

Hi, I am a newbie to wild flowers generally. I have found this site really helpful in identifying some of the flowers I have seen recently. However this one really confused me:

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The next one I took at Ivinghoe beacon this weekend, it looks like it is a vetch or something - but really don't know - prettly though, especially the drooping buds. Anybody care to help?

[aeshna5]

Any more images showing leaves, etc of 1?

2 isn't a legume, it's Common Rock-rose, Helianthemum nummularium

[reefbirder]

Thank you for that one, I will try to get some moe pictures of the 1st one.

[Dorts]

Originally Posted by reefbirder

Thank you for that one, I will try to get some moe pictures of the 1st one.

Yes, an interesting plant that one. Looks like a member of the Borage family, flowers may well be blue. But is not a plant that I recognise.
Look forward to seeing it in flower.
Dorts.

[Hedera]

Intriguing - made me think of something like Thorn apple, after the flower had fallen off. Borage-like, but was it climbing orscrambling?

[artdemole]

Could it be Lobelia inflata-Indian tobacco ....

[reefbirder]

Thanks to all who have helped me over this, I feel a bit embarassed. I returned to the plant today and realised that I had mislead myself and others with a close up shot. I think the plant is Bristly Oxtongue. However I am really struck by how lovely these otherwise unremarkable plants are when you take a good look at them.

Rob

[aeshna5]

Yes it is Bristly Oxtongue. Unfortunately taxonomists have now changed its scientific name to something much less memorable:

Helminthotheca echioides.

[reefbirder]

Thanks Aeshna,

I am sure I will make a few more bloops, but the patience that you guys seem to have will help me immensely.

Rob