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10-11-2010, 05:09 AM
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| | | Trees from leaves Hello everyone,
I've mainly been into fungi recently but thought it would up my game a bit if I was able to identify trees aswell. I went out and found some trees early today to ID and here are a few of them:   
I've identified them as far as I can (with this guide of around 40 tree species) but there are still a lot that I don't think are in this guide unfortunately and a few I'm unsure about. If anyone feels like giving me a hand here I would be very appreciative! Here's what I think so far:
1.?
2. Not actually from a tree or at least if it was a tree it was a very young one
3. I think is a Wych Elm leaf (Ulmus glabra)
4. ?
5. Silver birch (Betula pendula)
6. Goat willow (Salix capraea) is my best guess but the tip of the leaf looks more elongated than the image I'm looking at in this book).
7. Beech (Fagus sylvatica)
8. ?
9. Sycamore (Acer pseudoplatonus)
9. ? (I've made the mistake of naming two leaves as number 9)
10. Downy birch (Betula pendula)
11. The same as number 8?
12. Best guess is Goat Willow again (Salix capraea)
Unlabelled coniferous. Either a Hemlock spruce (Tsuga species) or European silver-fir (Abies alba):
I will have to invest in a better guide if I am to learn more; this guide is a tiny guide with tiny pictures in the back of a fungi identification book I have...!
Thanks,
Jack | 
10-11-2010, 06:54 AM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves That is a very neat idea, very useful, could you expand it then post it all
The Tree Identification Book by George W.D. Symonds may be useful
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10-11-2010, 07:05 AM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves 1. reminds me of a Black Poplar. I think these are fairly rare, and it's 'not quite there', so I'm wondering about a related species or hybrid. Will wait for someone who knows there trees.
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10-11-2010, 07:29 AM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves 1 is one of the poplars
4 is an alder
8 is elder
9 is another poplar? | 
10-11-2010, 04:02 PM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves Quote:
Originally Posted by nightshade That is a very neat idea, very useful, could you expand it then post it all
The Tree Identification Book by George W.D. Symonds may be useful | Unfortunately I can't edit my post now; too late! I'll have to let a moderator do it. I can't take credit for the idea of scanning in leaves Chris Yeates over on the fungi forum showed me the idea, I agree though they turn out really well. The colours are perfect and most of it is in focus.
Thanks for the suggestion,
Jack | 
10-11-2010, 04:06 PM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves Quote:
Originally Posted by The Woodman 1 is one of the poplars
4 is an alder
8 is elder
9 is another poplar? | Quote:
Originally Posted by Deb London 1. reminds me of a Black Poplar. I think these are fairly rare, and it's 'not quite there', so I'm wondering about a related species or hybrid. Will wait for someone who knows there trees. | This is how poor my guide is: On the photo of Elder (Sambucus nigra) leaves you can only just make out the serrated edges to the leaves due to the size of the photo. This is one I should know anyway really since it's what Jelly Ear (Auricularia auricula-judae) really likes to grow on!
Thanks for the help,
Jack | 
10-11-2010, 04:17 PM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves Is 1 a Lombardy Poplar? 2 looks like a blackcurrant to me and your conifer might be a Tsuga, deffo not a fir (Abies). | 
10-11-2010, 04:24 PM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves Quote:
Originally Posted by nightshade That is a very neat idea, very useful, could you expand it then post it all
The Tree Identification Book by George W.D. Symonds may be useful | I have a copy of ' The identification of Trees and Shrubs ' by F.K. Makins
(Dent) - and this a book I find useful. It dates from 1944.
btw it's written on the inside of the Dust Cover, "To be published in 1945 ' BRITISH TREES IN WINTER ' by F.K.Makins" I'd like one of these. | 
10-11-2010, 04:31 PM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves It's extremely difficult to be able to distinguish different Poplars from each other. There have been many Timber varieties, utilising both the North American and European species crossed with each other, and even back crosses.
Try and get a copy of "The Oxford Book of Trees " by B.E.Nicholson * A.R.C. Clapham (Peerage Books or Oxford Univeristy Press) ISBN 0 907408 48 6
Detailed descriptions of most Poplars that one will come across.
It will be easiest to buy a new copy of the Collins Field Guide to the Trees of Britain & N.Europe, ( by Alan Mitchell) - but the illustrations are not as good as the previous.
Another favourite of mine is "Trees & Bushes of Europe" by Oleg Polunin ( Oxford University Press,1976 )- a notable Botanical writer.
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10-11-2010, 04:42 PM
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| | | Re: Trees from leaves Quote:
Originally Posted by The Woodman Is 1 a Lombardy Poplar? 2 looks like a blackcurrant to me and your conifer might be a Tsuga, deffo not a fir (Abies). | That's what I initially thought for number two but then I found a picture of some blackcurrant leaves after a quick google search and they looked different:  (Just to confirm; this is the image I found on the internet, not another image I have taken of the leaves I found)
It could be that the leaves I photographed were from a variety of blackcurrant that isn't cultivated for the blackcurrants.
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