Clover I.D help please

stevecurtis · #1 (**permalink**) 14-07-2010, 06:11 PM

Is this plain leaved red clover or Zig zag clover, am I wrong altogether.

all the best Steve

treecreeper · #2 (**permalink**) 14-07-2010, 06:58 PM

Looks like red clover to me. The infloresence doesn't look like it's got any stem, and infloresence shape and colour looks like red clover.

stevecurtis · #3 (**permalink**) 14-07-2010, 08:27 PM

Thanks for your help im feeling a bit stupid of course its Red clover.

All the best Steve

Dorts · #4 (**permalink**) 15-07-2010, 10:00 AM

Steve
Maybe it was a bit unusual because it didn't have the familiar 'whitish- crescent'
on the leaves? Your plant is the 'plain-leaved' form.
Dorts.

stevecurtis · #5 (**permalink**) 15-07-2010, 10:48 AM

Thank you Dorts it was the leaves I did not recognize.

all the best steve

PeteTheBloke · #6 (**permalink**) 16-07-2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevecurtis

Thanks for your help im feeling a bit stupid of course its Red clover.

Never feel stupid for asking a question. I learnt everything I know (not a lot, but it's everything to me) by asking questions.

stevecurtis · #7 (**permalink**) 16-07-2010, 08:06 PM

Thanks Pete

lizard orchid · #8 (**permalink**) 04-08-2010, 10:24 AM

Sorry to tread on anyones toes but I can just make out the green tapering stipule in your picture that makes the species zigzag clover.
It justs not look quite right for red clover to me.

Brian Laney Northamptonshire

Dorts · #9 (**permalink**) 04-08-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lizard orchid

Sorry to tread on anyones toes but I can just make out the green tapering stipule in your picture that makes the species zigzag clover.
It justs not look quite right for red clover to me.

Brian Laney Northamptonshire

Brian.
I think it's fair to say that the free part of the stipules, (diagnostic), are not clear enough in Steve's pic. to say if they are bristle pointed or not.
However what is clear on closer inspection are feint white crescents on the leaves on the left of this plant (Red Clover). Also upper leaves are unstalked, as in pic, (in Red Clover). In Zigzag Clover they are stalked.
Dorts.

lizard orchid · #10 (**permalink**) 04-08-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dorts

Brian.
I think it's fair to say that the free part of the stipules, (diagnostic), are not clear enough in Steve's pic. to say if they are bristle pointed or not.
However what is clear on closer inspection are feint white crescents on the leaves on the left of this plant (Red Clover). Also upper leaves are unstalked, as in pic, (in Red Clover). In Zigzag Clover they are stalked.
Dorts.

Dear Dorts,
Thanks for your reply. You have given me another bit of info on Zigzag Clover ID I did not know there.