New Black Bryony thread

[animartco]

I'm sorry, someone posted a black bryony thread a while ago but I can't find it now. I believe they wanted to know how to cultivate it.
I have had one plant for ages growing beside a gatepost, in the back garden and every year it twined itself into the wire gate and locked me out! This year I suddenly discovered another one had sprouited through a rose bush in the front garen.
I had someone cut the elder hedge down to four feet beside the gate and either there is a third one or the original one is running along the trench he dug. They all look extremely happy and must have loved the wicked winter we have had!
So- to cultivate. Well they are growing around the roots of thick shrubs or bushes and on the north side. Need to be entangled in roots and in complete darkness, but not overshadowed by trees. As with so many climbers the rule is roots in shade top in sun. Also black bryony in particular seems to love climbing up wire netting, or through a little tree with twiggy branches. You wouldn't be able to 'train' it, because the stems are too brittle. A wind will snap off the top if it is tied to anything.
Black Bryony grows to eight or ten foot so it needs a high support.
White bryony is lower, and tends to run along the tops of low shrubs more, so consider this if you don't have the height available. Both equally beautiful.