A couple of late flowerers for ID

[davidbr]

I could use a bit of advice on these two;

This storksbill (Erodium sp.), half a dozen or so individual plants, were found in the grounds of Frenchay Hospital, Bristol. Not the kind of place you'd usually expect to find any kind of storksbill, so it's obviously sprung up as a casual.



This attractive toadflax was in flower at Abbey Wood Station, Filton, a site where I've found all kinds of unusual aliens in the past. It's unlike anything I've ever seen before; the nearest I can get is Linaria bipartita, but I'm far from convinced.



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - these were in flower on November 17th, by the way

[Beekeeper]

davidbr, i have no idea about the second one but the first looks like a purple thistle going by the shape of the unopened buds, assuming that the other pictures are of the foliage belonging to this plant it would not appear to be a thistle at all, totally confused now but very interested if anyone else has any ideas.

Ian

[davidbr]

All the photos are of the same plant and it's definitely a stork's-bill, the fruits are distinctive.There are quite a few alien species of Erodium recorded as casuals, though, and I've not been able to find any decent photos online with which to compare.

[Hedera]

The first is definitely a Stork'sbill with those long beaks and divided leaves, I'm leaning towards Common though.
The linarium with the touches of yellow and short spur is probably the Small toadflax which flowers late.

[aeshna5]

1 looks like Erodium moschatum to me.

2 Maybe a form of the frequently grown Linaria maroccana? Not sure about that though!

[davidbr]

I think you're right with No.1; Musk Stork's-bill, Erodium moschatum

I still have absolutely no idea on the toadflax, though