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12-09-2009, 02:29 PM
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| | | Crane's-bill I think but which?
If I'd realised there were so many varieties I'd have taken more photos and more notes... 
Seen at Brede High Woods, East Sussex, on 5 September. It was around 20-30cm tall.
Any help gratefully received!
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12-09-2009, 03:23 PM
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| | | Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
The paired flowers suggest French Cranesbill Geranium endresii but this one might need a gardener to confirm |
12-09-2009, 05:33 PM
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| | | Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
could be G. endressii, but I think it may be it's hybrid G. x oxonianum |
12-09-2009, 06:40 PM
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| | | Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
The vast majority of the plants I come across are the hybrid G. x oxonianum but, although the angle of the photo makes it hard to be certain, the lack of obvious veins on the pink petals would suggest to me that this one's a genuine G. endressii. |
12-09-2009, 06:45 PM
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| | | Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
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Originally Posted by davidbr  the lack of obvious veins on the pink petals would suggest to me that this one's a genuine G. endressii. | The veins do look as if they are darker than the petal colour. The retuse tips to the petals is also a G. x oxonianum character |
12-09-2009, 09:33 PM
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| | | Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
Many thanks for the replies everyone. I really wish I'd taken different angles plus a few shots of the leaves.
Maybe this enlargement will help a little... 
I take it this is a garden escape, or a cross with a garden flower, and not a true wildflower?
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| |  Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
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Originally Posted by pressld2 Many thanks for the replies everyone. I really wish I'd taken different angles plus a few shots of the leaves.
Maybe this enlargement will help a little...
I take it this is a garden escape, or a cross with a garden flower, and not a true wildflower?
Dave P. | Yes, garden escape; G. x oxonianum is a fairly common escape + is a vigorous plant; the parent G. endressi is far less often seen as an escapee. |
13-09-2009, 07:40 AM
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| | | Re: Crane's-bill I think but which?
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Originally Posted by Tiggrx The veins do look as if they are darker than the petal colour. The retuse tips to the petals is also a G. x oxonianum character | Yes, having looked again I think you're right. G. x oxonianum, Druce's Cranesbill, then.
It's much, much the commonest in the Bristol area; G. x oxonianum is one of the most frequent of all the escapes, and I probably find 50 for every one genuine G. endressii I've ever come across. |
13-09-2009, 06:05 PM
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Excellent - many thanks for your help everyone!
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