Autumn coming early???

[wildherbalian85]

I have noticed lime, chestnut, maple and birch all showing signs of autumn. Not every tree i see is doing this but still enough dotted around to make me wonder >>>>> Is autumn coming 6/7 weeks early for the south coast??

I noticed this last year but last year this did not start until around half way through august.... which for down here is still early.

[Kayleigh]

Yes, I have noticed so has Tufftie.

Early Autumn?

[Dogghound]

From personal observations I think this whole year has been very early, spring seemed very early with very early migrants and breeeding birds as well as plants. Alot of plants and trees such a rowan seem in fruit alot earlier here.

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by Kayleigh

Yes, I have noticed so has Tufftie.

Early Autumn?

Ahh thanks for pointing this thread out to me, i had noticed it

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by Dogghound

From personal observations I think this whole year has been very early, spring seemed very early with very early migrants and breeeding birds as well as plants. Alot of plants and trees such a rowan seem in fruit alot earlier here.

Spring down here was definitely slow to start. It didn't really get going until the end of February and (if memory serves me right) we didn't see any real spring warmth (i'e) 19C - 23C until may.

If autumn has come early then this will be one of the shortest summers i can remember

[watsthat]

I saw some beautiful ripe rowan berries today

Pete

[ron1863]

No sign of Autumn up here yet, the brambles are still green but there are Rowan berries about

[Gaina]

We have extremely early berries here (I'd have a tootle round my garden to get specific species but I'm currently confined to barracks with lurgy ) . Also a good number of the trees are taking on a distinctly yellow hue.

I wonder if that is any indicator of possible snow this winter?

[Cotham Marble]

Originally Posted by wildherbalian85

I have noticed lime, chestnut, maple and birch all showing signs of autumn. Not every tree i see is doing this but still enough dotted around to make me wonder >>>>> Is autumn coming 6/7 weeks early for the south coast?? I noticed this last year but last year this did not start until around half way through august.... which for down here is still early.

Given that leaf fall has in general been happening successively later over recent years throughout much of the UK, for Autumn to be occurring now would be very much a reversal of that trend.

What I think is more likely is that the long hot dry spell of May and June caused both heat and drought stress to many trees at the time they were in flower/fruit and/or putting on early season growth, and that any foliage loss or die back being observed now is the result of that earlier stress. I'm confident that there'll still be plenty of green on many trees well into October.

CM

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by Cotham Marble

Given that leaf fall has in general been happening successively later over recent years throughout much of the UK, for Autumn to be occurring now would be very much a reversal of that trend.

What I think is more likely is that the long hot dry spell of May and June caused both heat and drought stress to many trees at the time they were in flower/fruit and/or putting on early season growth, and that any foliage loss or die back being observed now is the result of that earlier stress. I'm confident that there'll still be plenty of green on many trees well into October.

CM

2007 autumn started very late.... i remember Horse chestnut trees with leaves on them in mid November, apple trees still ladened with good apples in November, etc

2008 autumn started early here and i was also in Newcastle for 2 weeks from mid august last year. Whilst up there i noted many species of fungi where appearing everywhere and also many of the tree's where showing real signs of turning... indeed leaves where dropping on some. My late grandad told me that this was not unusual for that time of year. In previous recent years the turning of the leaves had been happening a little later.

With regards to extreams of heat and drought we have not had either for several years.

P.s i would love to know where you where in May and June.... on a whole for the UK May was average and there was no extreams heat anywhere in the UK for May. Rainfall was average or above for the majority of UK and the only exceptions was the far Southeast of the country and and East Anglia.

June though was a reasonably dry month but not a drought... regards to heat again there was no extreams of heat in the UK... for a few days a small area in and around the Home Counties had temps pushing towards 32C... hot but not extream.