Cranesbill ID and Ramsons maybe

[KeenTeen17]

Which cranesbill is this? It was growing next to a road. The flowers were the size of Doves Foot Cranesbill but the whole plant was quite big.

Also is this ramsons?

[Hedge Witch]

Your ramsons does look like an unhappy version of mine KT, so I think that's what it is:

[Lancashire Lad]

I would agree with Dove's-foot Crane's-bill. - The petals don't appear to be notched deeply enough to be Hedgerow CB.

The second probably is Ramsons, but a leaf would have given certain ID. The only other possibilities would have been Neapolitan Garlic or Hairy Garlic, but again you would need leaf info for certain ID on those as well.

Regards
Mike.

[KeenTeen17]

Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad

I would agree with Dove's-foot Crane's-bill. - The petals don't appear to be notched deeply enough to be Hedgerow CB.

The second probably is Ramsons, but a leaf would have given certain ID. The only other possibilities would have been Neapolitan Garlic or Hairy Garlic, but again you would need leaf info for certain ID on those as well.

Regards
Mike.

I crunched up the leaf and it gave the garlic smell like Ramsons

[leifus]

1 dove's-foot crane's-bill - the petals aren't deeply notched enough to be H.crane's-bill EDIT - mike got there before me
2 ramsons