Ladys Mantle Species

[KeenTeen17]

It probably won't be possible to get a species out of this one because they are so hard! I might as well though

[leifus]

if it helps its not Alchemilla vulgaris or A.alpina

i would be interested to know what it is as I also found one. Back then I just put it down as A.vulgaris

[Tiggrx]

Not easy!!!!

From what I can see it has hairs on the undersides of the leaves and I can't see any hairs on the tops of the leaves. This suggests that is probably Alchemilla xanthochlora - but that is in no way definite

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by leifus

if it helps its not Alchemilla vulgaris or A.alpina

given that the (aggregate) name 'Alchemilla vulgaris' covers 13 of the 15 British taxa and of the remaining two one is A. alpina are you saying that this is the only remaining one i.e. A. conjuncta?

cos if you are I think you are incorrect


on a more serious note I agree with the previous post - on what we can see here xanthochlora is the safest suggestion

Chris

[leifus]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

given that the (aggregate) name 'Alchemilla vulgaris' covers 13 of the 15 British taxa and of the remaining two one is A. alpina are you saying that this is the only remaining one i.e. A. conjuncta?

cos if you are I think you are incorrect


on a more serious note I agree with the previous post - on what we can see here xanthochlora is the safest suggestion

Chris

do you think my plant is the same species as KT's or not?

[Chris Yeates]

hi Leifus

what I was getting at is the name Alchemilla vulgaris is an aggregate name (covering a range of - in this case virtually all - Alchemilla (micro-) species)

in the same way you have Taraxacum officinale agg., Rubus fruticosus agg., Euphrasia officinalis agg. for dandelions, brambles and eyebrights respectively

so saying it's not Alchemilla vulgaris rules out all the British lady's mantles except alpina and conjuncta

does that kind of make sense?

regards

Chris

[leifus]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi Leifus

what I was getting at is the name Alchemilla vulgaris is an aggregate name (covering a range of - in this case virtually all - Alchemilla (micro-) species)

in the same way you have Taraxacum officinale agg., Rubus fruticosus agg., Euphrasia officinalis agg. for dandelions, brambles and eyebrights respectively

so saying it's not Alchemilla vulgaris rules out all the British lady's mantles except alpina and conjuncta

does that kind of make sense?

regards

Chris

ahh ok so it is and it isnt i get you

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by leifus

do you think my plant is the same species as KT's or not?

hi

it's difficult to make out (all) the key features on either photo, but I suspect (and don't quote me) that they are both xanthochlora

Chris

[leifus]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi

it's difficult to make out (all) the key features on either photo, but I suspect (and don't quote me) that they are both xanthochlora

Chris

thanks - i googled it and the habitat seems perfect for where I found mine

Moist meadows, open woods, pastures and also on rock ledges in mountainous areas