Last flower I.D. for 2008

[2dogs2000]

Could anyone help with I.D.s on the above?

[NickCantle]

Is the first St. John's Wort? I'm really crud at flower ID's!

[leifus]

1 definately a st.john's-wort, most likely imperforate sjw but we would need a leaf to confirm

2 a woundwort, most likely marsh woundwort

[leifus]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Is the first St. John's Wort? I'm really crud at flower ID's!

my turn to congratulate you now Nick Well done

[Jez]

I'd also go with Marsh Woundwort for numero 2!

[Lancashire Lad]

I'm tempted to go for Perforate St. John's Wort for No.1.
The stem doesn't look square, the sepals are pointed, and the petals don't appear to have the usual quota of black dots that would be the case with Imperforate. (I think that the very few odd spots that can be seen are debris rather than petal dots).

I agree that No.2 does look like Marsh Woundwort.

Regards
Mike.

[leifus]

Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad

I'm tempted to go for Perforate St. John's Wort for No.1.
The stem doesn't look square, the sepals are pointed, and the petals don't appear to have the usual quota of black dots that would be the case with Imperforate. (I think that the very few odd spots that can be seen are debris rather than petal dots).

I agree that No.2 does look like Marsh Woundwort.

Regards
Mike.

yes I see your point I think it must be either perforate or imperforate but they are so hard to tell apart from a photo

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by leifus

yes I see your point I think it must be either perforate or imperforate but they are so hard to tell apart from a photo

Can't dispute that.

Regards
Mike.

[KeenTeen17]

1) either imperforate or perforate st johns wort
2) marsh woundwort