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03-10-2008, 08:26 AM
|  | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wales
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| | Garden escapee for ID Hello!
My husband came across an escapee a few weeks back near our home here in Wales that I'd like a bit of help with. I am pretty sure it's a Poppy, but was wondering if anyone knew which type? Any help would be appreciated.
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03-10-2008, 08:39 AM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID Quite possibly, lady bird poppy. I haven't seen this garden variety in a long while, I do remember there being large spots on the petals. Not all of them.
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03-10-2008, 08:51 AM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID Looks like a standard opium poppy to me. This one is a striking shade of dark red, but they are quite variable through the pink-red range.
We had swathes of these in the gardens where I used to work at one time, and I often wondered at the legality of growing them - I haven't been able to find anything that confirms it would come into the same category as cannabis plants for example - possibly because the production of drugs from the plant would take some sort of laboratory processes.
I think they are a magnificent looking flower, but they only last for a couple of days at the most, when the slightest amount of wind or rain will have the petals coming off.
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03-10-2008, 09:23 AM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID wow, well the two suggestions both look like my flower to me? Is there a way to tell the difference between the two? | 
03-10-2008, 09:51 AM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Dae ...Is there a way to tell the difference between the two?... | I think that the dark markings on Ladybird poppy petals are almost always individual "spots" surrounded by the general red colour, i.e. like on a ladybird. Whereas opium poppies have a the dark centre extending into the dark area of the petals.
Opium poppies also grow much taller - Ladybirds about 450mm, Opiums over 1m.
I'm sure those more informed than myself will be able to give you other distinguishing features.
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Mike.
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03-10-2008, 10:20 AM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID Well the height differences should be enough. I'll ask my husband how tall they were when he saw them - as I wasn't there. Thanks again! | 
03-10-2008, 01:22 PM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID I think it is oriental poppy papaver pseudorientale
me and jhewitt15 saw one back in July | 
03-10-2008, 01:54 PM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad Looks like a standard opium poppy to me. This one is a striking shade of dark red, but they are quite variable through the pink-red range.
Regards
Mike. | I always thought opium poppies were just the light lilac types.
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03-10-2008, 02:20 PM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID The plant is an Opium Poppy, Papaver somniferum, a common casual of urban wastelands especially on disturbed ground. The natural form is lilac, but I see red-flowered ones far more often around Bristol and double-flowered forms aren't at all unusual. | 
03-10-2008, 02:30 PM
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| | | Re: Garden escapee for ID Seems this is a bit of a complicated one  I don't think the plant was on disturbed ground or on an urban wasteland (not sure what that is exactly). The path it was alongside is a forested trail which works its way up the side of a hill - just behind our tiny village here in Wales.
Because opium poppies are so variable it has me leaning that way, but keenteen's oriental poppy photo looks a lot like the one my husband photographed...so I don't really know which one to go for. Perhaps I should just class it as a Poppy and leave it be huh?? |  | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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