Lesser Twayblade Site?

[ceterach]

Originally Posted by the young hunter

I have to say that I've never seen any photos of lesser twayblade in full bloom taken at any time in July, maybe you have some photos for evidence
mike

Yes I do have photos but since they are not digital that won't help.

You asked for locations I gave you two and when you questioned the flowering time I confirmed my observation!

I must admit I was only passing on my practical experience rather than reading a book but your comments moved me to check various textbooks and guess what, for lesser twayblade flowering times range from May - September (according to the books).

I also notice in another thread that Mark Tulley found them in flower in August.

Smilies do not make up for politeness.

[Jim Ford]

'The Harraps' state:

"Mid-May to mid-July, exceptionally from April, but generally peaking from late May. Once the flower has been pollinated the column quickly withers and blackens but the remainder of the flower sometimes persists until September."

So, it really depends on how you define 'in flower'. For my purpose, I'd rather have the flower fresher than the one I took on the 14th July, where the column is withered and blackened. I guess 'The Young Hunter' doesn't count this as in "in full bloom taken at any time in July", and I'm inclined to agree.

The images shown in 'The Harraps' were taken on the 7th June in Midlothian and are much fresher.

Jim

[ceterach]

Jim

I'm not argueing any of that, I merely reported what I saw. I know it flowers elsewhere much earlier and that was why I made my comment on that particular site. Perhaps my visits coincided with particularly bad winters and a late season (??) but I am happy to go with what I see rather than what the book tells me. Harraps say one thing Lang says something different!

Perhaps I won't bother next time.

All the best

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by ceterach

Perhaps my visits coincided with particularly bad winters and a late season (??) but I am happy to go with what I see rather than what the book tells me.

The problem for me is that it's basically a 1000 mile round trip to see them in Scotland, so I'd like to get it right and 'hit' them at their best!

Local knowledge, such as you have, is always best. Perhaps I'll divert my journey to the Cairngorms next year for a couple of days, to take in the site (Pentland Hills) you've recommended.

Jim

[the young hunter]

I wasn't challenging your expertise I was simply interested to know if you had any photos of them in July. Apologies if offense was given; it was not intended.

What I meant was what Jim said; I prefer to see them fresh and not at all withered and I've got to hit it just right if I've convinced my mom to drive me 350 miles to see what she thinks is severely unimpressive. Hence, I was just querying whether I could see it in July as this would be more useful. Clearly I can so all is fine. Cheers.


mike

[ceterach]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

The problem for me is that it's basically a 1000 mile round trip to see them in Scotland, so I'd like to get it right and 'hit' them at their best!

Local knowledge, such as you have, is always best. Perhaps I'll divert my journey to the Cairngorms next year for a couple of days, to take in the site (Pentland Hills) you've recommended.

Jim

Jim

That was the point of one of my earlier posts in this thread, I am not a local, I live on the North Downs, so perhaps there is a local out there who know the Pentland Hills. Strangely I can find nothing on the web about Lesser Twayblade there, so perhaps I dreamt it

All the best

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by the young hunter

I've got to hit it just right if I've convinced my mom to drive me 350 miles to see what she thinks is severely unimpressive.

That's some mum you've got!

Jim

[the young hunter]

I know!

She is very nice But she likes to see the orchids too


mike

[leifus]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

That's some mum you've got!

Jim

my mum and dad wouldn't drive me that far just to get a photo in a million years!! I couldn't even persuade them to take me to princes risborough to see the violet helleborines this year