2 umbellifers for confirmation/ID please

[rscott74]

These are images of 2 umbellifers taken yesterday and today.
I think (1) & (2) is Hemlock. The plant was 2+ m tall although not near a stream.
(3) & (4) I can't figure out having trawled Wild Flower Key for carrot family.
Help/confirmation please.


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4)

[JennyS]

Hi rscott - your second plant is Common Valerian, Valeriana officinalis

[rscott74]

Thanks Jenny. I was on the wrong track thinking umbellifer = carror.

[leifus]

i think your hunch was correct - Hemlock water dropwort

[aeshna5]

Originally Posted by leifus

i think your hunch was correct - Hemlock water dropwort

He said Hemlock, Conium maculatum, which is what it is, not Hemlock Water-dropwort, Oenanthe crocata which is a totally different species!

[rscott74]

Thanks for confirmation. I got it right as carrot family and then purple spotted stem is the giveaway. This really was a massive plant, the size of a small tree and well over 2 m tall and spreading. It had suffered some wind damage.
It also appeared to be alone although there may have been smaller plants near by. As it's poisonous and in a Wildlife Trust area next to a foot path should I mention it to the Trust?

[leifus]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

He said Hemlock, Conium maculatum, which is what it is, not Hemlock Water-dropwort, Oenanthe crocata which is a totally different species!

wooops sorry!! my bad

[thunder]

Originally Posted by rscott74

It also appeared to be alone although there may have been smaller plants near by. As it's poisonous and in a Wildlife Trust area next to a foot path should I mention it to the Trust?

It hardly seems necessary - the plants aren't going to leap out and strangle anyone. If anybody picks plants in a nature reserve and eats them, without knowing what they are, they deserve anything that comes to them, in my view!

henrya

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

He said Hemlock, Conium maculatum, which is what it is, not Hemlock Water-dropwort, Oenanthe crocata which is a totally different species!

Yes it is proper poison hemlock - Conium maculatum

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by rscott74

Thanks for confirmation. I got it right as carrot family and then purple spotted stem is the giveaway. This really was a massive plant, the size of a small tree and well over 2 m tall and spreading. It had suffered some wind damage.
It also appeared to be alone although there may have been smaller plants near by. As it's poisonous and in a Wildlife Trust area next to a foot path should I mention it to the Trust?

Lolz to the highlighted bit - there are 100's of poisonous plants and flowers.

Poison Hemlock can reach and even exceed hights of 2 meters especialy were the soil is good