A few more, pleas

wildherbalian85 · #1 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 06:54 PM

Here we go...

First was scattered all along the side of the crop...

The next was found growing on chalk grassland.... it looks like a dandy lion but its not..

This burdock looked very red for some reason....

and another blue bell shaped flower....

rscott74 · #2 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 07:28 PM

I would suggest 2nd is one of the Burdocks and the 3rd Harebell.

djackso · #3 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 07:32 PM

The first reminds me of a type of rocket, Eruca sativa, but not sure the leaves are the same.

wildherbalian85 · #4 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rscott74

I would suggest 2nd is one of the Burdocks and the 3rd Harebell.

Plant 2 has a cotton flower thing like a dandy-lion but is around 2ft tall and then leaves behind those weird looking things.

There are 4 separate plants - plant number 3 being some kind of burdock.

Plant 4 was reaching quite some hight and was growing scattered in hedges, those slender green leaves that are visible belong to the plant that is in flower.

wildherbalian85 · #5 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by djackso

The first reminds me of a type of rocket, Eruca sativa, but not sure the leaves are the same.

Yepp that is the plant or at least the one's on google look the same.

wildherbalian85 · #6 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 07:44 PM

Thanks peeps.

Tiggrx · #7 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 08:39 PM

The first one is Wild Radish (Raphanus raphanistrum)
I think the second is Goat's-beard (Tragopogon pratensis) but can't see the leaves too well

djackso · #8 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Wild radish, yes - the leaves look better than my guess - I think that's right.

wildherbalian85 · #9 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiggrx

The first one is Wild Radish (Raphanus raphanistrum)
I think the second is Goat's-beard (Tragopogon pratensis) but can't see the leaves too well

Thanks

wildherbalian85 · #10 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djackso

Wild radish, yes - the leaves look better than my guess - I think that's right.

Nahh the leaves look more like the first suggestion.

leifus · #11 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 09:11 PM

1 wild radish
2 goats beard
3 lesser burdock
4 campanula sp.

wildherbalian85 · #12 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by leifus

1 wild radish
2 goats beard
3 lesser burdock
4 campanula sp.

Thank you

leifus · #13 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 09:28 PM

that's ok. I'll leave the campanula to someone who can see the leaves!!!

wildherbalian85 · #14 (**permalink**) 13-07-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by leifus

that's ok. I'll leave the campanula to someone who can see the leaves!!!

Maybe this will help....

Jez · #15 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 08:34 AM

Any chance wildherbalian85, you could tell us where you had taken the picture of the bellflower? With all the Ivy growing around it I'd suggest it was a wooded area which would indicate possibly it to be Ivy Leaved Bellflower as Harebell grows on open heath & dry grassland areas. Though the leaves don't look all to palmate to me which is why it's throwing me somewhat!

Cheers

wildherbalian85 · #16 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jez

Any chance wildherbalian85, you could tell us where you had taken the picture of the bellflower? With all the Ivy growing around it I'd suggest it was a wooded area which would indicate possibly it to be Ivy Leaved Bellflower as Harebell grows on open heath & dry grassland areas. Though the leaves don't look all to palmate to me which is why it's throwing me somewhat!

Cheers

Well as already mentioned it was growing scattered in hedges, hedges were along a road.

Im thinking it possibly could be some sort of Creeping Bellflower??

ceterach · #17 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 10:14 AM

Hi

I think this is simply Harebell (Campanula rotundifolia), I don't think the foliage you have circled belongs to the plant.

Ivy-leaved Bellflower (Wahlenbergia hederacea) is a very small plant of bogs and marshes.

All the best

wildherbalian85 · #18 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ceterach

Hi

I think this is simply Harebell (Campanula rotundifolia), I don't think the foliage you have circled belongs to the plant.

Ivy-leaved Bellflower (Wahlenbergia hederacea) is a very small plant of bogs and marshes.

All the best

The foilage to that plant is in the picture, the plant you mentioned looks tiny, also from what i have read the plant you have mentioned requires full sun, this plant though was in partial shade. The bells on this plant were about an inch (possibly more) in lenght the plant was up to a meter (or just over) in hight, it was scattered and looked like a climber/ creeper.

wildherbalian85 · #19 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 10:42 AM

Im pretty sure it is creeping bellflower - i just found this description of it online and it is almost spot on...

"Creeping bellflower has escaped from older gardens to become a weed. It is a perennial, 2 to 4 feet tall, and spreads by deep roots. Leaves are somewhat rough and lance-shaped, tapering to a point. The 1-inch flowers are purple, down-turned and bell shaped."

Skippy's Vegetable Garden: Creeping Bellflower

There are other description of it that i have read which basically describe the same thing.

jhewitt15 · #20 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 11:07 AM

1) wild radish
2) goats beard
3) lesser burdock
4) harebell

Bub-les · #21 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jhewitt15

1) wild radish
2) goats beard
3) lesser burdock
4) harebell

agree with these
Barbara

Bub-les · #22 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 11:45 AM

Creeping bell flower is a much more robust plant than harebell. The stems on the harebell are thin and delicate like your photo
The leave in your photo are not related to the harebell. I'm sure if you go back and follow the flowering stems to the ground you will be able to confirm this.
Hope that helps

Barbara

wildherbalian85 · #23 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 12:12 PM

Look im getting a little P.Off with the insults!!! I did follow the freeking things i Know what i was looking at i know how tall it was, the size of the flowers, what the leaves looked like .... i was there!! i saw it!!! i felt it!!!! Just because you have no idea what it is stop insulting me by implying im thick/ stupid by saying that i was looking at the wrong thing or i "didn't see those flowers attached to the stem with those leaves also attached (not in those words)"

I give up

Bub-les · #24 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 12:30 PM

Please Ian I am most definitely NOT trying to insult you in any way. I am only trying to help.
Barbara

wildherbalian85 · #25 (**permalink**) 14-07-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bub-les

Please Ian I am most definitely NOT trying to insult you in any way. I am only trying to help.
Barbara

Ok fare enough

, but you see after everything i have said.....

" I'm sure if you go back and follow the flowering stems to the ground you will be able to confirm this."

.... comes across as insulting.

It implies in someway that i am incompetent. It's not just you there are others that have stuck to the same suggestion despite the other information that i have provided, i have even had to repeat information.

One thing it is not is harebell, the plant was to tall, the flowers were to big, the habitat was wrong.

From what i can find about harebell:

Campanula rotundifolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Flowers up to 15mm long, (25mm - 30mm)

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