Help with 4 IDs please

[rscott74]

I've been going through images from last few week and found these I can't fully ID. Can anyone help please? Thanks


Don't know what this is.


Is this Hemlock?


Cranesbill? but which one?


Cabbage family - one of the cresses?

[JennyS]

1. Tormentil, Potentilla erecta
2. Not Hemlock, no purple on stems and leaves look too finely cut - could be Pignut, Conopodium majus or possibly Spignel, Meum athamanticum
3. Doves-foot Cranesbill, Geranium mollis
4. Leaves look bristly so its probably Charlock, Sinapsis arvensis

[rscott74]

Thanks Jenny. I should have recognised Tormentil although it's the first time I've seem it this year. Perhaps the same with Doves foot Cranesbill - I saw that for the first time just a few weeks back but it was much smaller and almost lost in a mown grass area.
Do the images below help with your suggestions?

Stem - Spignel?


Stem - Charlock?

[JennyS]

2. is most likely Pignut - after readin up more Spignel is only found in Scotland and NE England...........

Stem looks good for Charlock

[wildherbalian85]

Poison hemlock has blotches on its main stems...





Your picture realy only shows the flower in any detail making an I.D harder.

The plant in your picture looks very small to be hemlock - though they can and do sometimes grow short at around 80cm

[Meta menardi]

Hemlock is a large and robust plant. It smells of mice (nip down the pet shop and have a sniff). There are white patches, very similar to Sweet Cicely, on the leaves. It likes quite a wet soil.

If you are not sure what mice smell like, find some Hemlock... What, what, I'm not being silly.

[JennyS]

The plant in your picture looks very small to be hemlock - though they can and do sometimes grow short at around 80cm

I know you're fond of your hemlock, but this plant definitely isn't that!

[rscott74]

Thanks for further responses. I'll settle for Pignut. The plant in question is fairly common around here, even if we are if N E Enland, the discription in Wild Flower Key and the stated locations also fit.

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by JennyS

I know you're fond of your hemlock, but this plant definitely isn't that!

I know

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by Meta menardi

There are white patches, very similar to Sweet Cicely, on the leaves.

White patches???