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09-02-2008, 04:23 PM
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Can anybody help with this one, taken last August at Mere Sands Wood nature reserve in Lancashire? Is it a wild flower or a garden escapee?   |
09-02-2008, 08:33 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified plant
It is Red Bartsia (Odontites vernus) - a native species |
09-02-2008, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggrx  It is Red Bartsia (Odontites vernus) - a native species | Many thanks, Tggrx! I've just looked it up in my wild flower book and I would never have recognised it from the picture in there ...  |
10-02-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggrx It is Red Bartsia (Odontites vernus) - a native species | Agree with your ID, but it doesn't look like a typical form- possibly a fasciated flower? |
10-02-2008, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by aeshna5 Agree with your ID, but it doesn't look like a typical form- possibly a fasciated flower? | I agree - looks very fasciated to me
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10-02-2008, 09:54 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but what does fasciated mean? |
11-02-2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jezlee Many thanks, Tggrx! I've just looked it up in my wild flower book and I would never have recognised it from the picture in there ... | Is your flower book the Francis Rose one? The appalling picture in there totally threw me when I first saw Red Bartsia last summer. Generally the pictures are very good, but some are really unhelpful such as the Common Mallow and Musk Mallow ones. |
11-02-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jezlee Forgive my ignorance, but what does fasciated mean? | Ooops - sorry for using a technical term. The dictionary says "union of a number of parts in a flat plane" which is pretty close to the botanical meaning. If you look at the pic you can see, I think, that instead of being a slender stem, as one might expect, it's fat and distorted, with flowers emerging all round. The stem has grown distorted, for some reason - maybe genetic, may be virus or insect induced. Forsythia stems are prone to it (at least, mine is!)
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11-02-2008, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder Ooops - sorry for using a technical term. The dictionary says "union of a number of parts in a flat plane" which is pretty close to the botanical meaning. If you look at the pic you can see, I think, that instead of being a slender stem, as one might expect, it's fat and distorted, with flowers emerging all round. The stem has grown distorted, for some reason - maybe genetic, may be virus or insect induced. Forsythia stems are prone to it (at least, mine is!)
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11-02-2008, 10:02 PM
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Not usually more likely cause is aphids.
Its like several stems growing together unseparated. | | | |
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