Broomrape ID

[IanS]

hi All
Came across two broomrape plants still flowering on Monday but am not sure which species they are. Any help appreciated!





I think one is common brromrape and the other ivy but am I right???
Cheers
Ian

[Tiggrx]

I would have said that the first picture is of Ivy Broomrape and the second Common Broomrape, but can't really see the distinguishing characters (usually stigma shape/colour) in the pics.

[IanS]

Thanks Tiggrx
Yes I didn't know at the time of taking the photos how important the inside parts of the flowers were in IDing the plants. I was very surprised to find them flowering at all to be honest. The first shot was of a plant growing in ivy and the second growing near a now dead clump of moon carrot.