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01-10-2007, 07:41 AM
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| | | The mighty ... hawthorn
We know that the roots of trees do a fair amount to break down rocks but probably tend to think of oak and beech etc.. This shows that even a 'shrub' can have an effect on the geology: a hawthorn (of some age) growing in and displacing limestone in Long Dale. 
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Judging by the size of the trunk that is a very old Hawthorn. Hawthorn can attain an age of 250+ years. Wonder how old that one is?
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01-10-2007, 10:47 AM
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Quite an age, I should think. Especially when you consider how little soil it has to feed from ... Quote:
Originally Posted by paulchandler6  Judging by the size of the trunk that is a very old Hawthorn. Hawthorn can attain an age of 250+ years. Wonder how old that one is?
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I keep reading how highly prized hawthorn wood is ( and the roots ) . I think its especially hard or something....I just hope someone doesnt see the value in this old beauty.
It makes intensly hot fire wood hot enough to burn pig iron apparently.
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01-10-2007, 06:55 PM
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| | | Re: The mighty ... hawthorn
It's fairly safe out there, I should think - until the rock collapses and the whole lot falls down the hill .... There are a lot of large, old shrubs up that way including some huge elders although they never seem to reach the age of hawthorns.
I think apple/cherry are the densest British woods ... after hornbeam ... but I'm not going to chop anything down to find out! Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Salter I keep reading how highly prized hawthorn wood is ( and the roots ) . I think its especially hard or something....I just hope someone doesnt see the value in this old beauty.
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01-10-2007, 07:13 PM
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| | | Re: The mighty ... hawthorn
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Originally Posted by paulchandler6 Judging by the size of the trunk that is a very old Hawthorn. Hawthorn can attain an age of 250+ years. Wonder how old that one is? | It looks as though the wall is older! |
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Originally Posted by clicka15 It looks as though the wall is older! | I guess the original part of the wall was older as the Hawthorn has grown up and thru the wall. It looks as though they may have put concrete on the top of the wall to stabalise it more recently.
Good for them though in leaving the Hawthorn there.
Hawthorn is a good wood to work with by the way. 
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01-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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what a lovely old tree pity it cant talk and tell us about how the world was befor we ruind it. |
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The point is that that isn't a wall - it's limestone bedrock! You can see a wall in the background but the foreground is part of the valley side!
[So yes, the rock is older by several million years!] Quote:
Originally Posted by clicka15 It looks as though the wall is older! |
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott The point is that that isn't a wall - it's limestone bedrock! You can see a wall in the background but the foreground is part of the valley side!
[So yes, the rock is older by several million years!] | Thats even more impressive. It really looked like a wall.
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