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30-08-2007, 07:28 AM
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| | | Which Clover? Hi, having a bit of trouble with this clover....anyone offer any assistance? | 
30-08-2007, 07:53 PM
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| | | Re: Which Clover? Looks like an atypical Red Clover, Trifolium pratense, with short-stalked pinkish heads + bristle pointed stipules. | 
30-08-2007, 07:54 PM
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| | | Re: Which Clover? aeshna....are there many variants like this in the red clover genepool? | 
30-08-2007, 07:58 PM
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| | | Re: Which Clover? Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel aeshna....are there many variants like this in the red clover genepool? | I've not seen one quite like this, but as it's an important fodder crop, there are many agricultural strains which will cross with native stock. | 
30-08-2007, 08:11 PM
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| | | Re: Which Clover? So would this have a variant name or is it just a basic Red Clover (Trifolium Pratense)???? | 
31-08-2007, 02:41 AM
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| | | Re: Which Clover? I must say, Scarlet Pimpernel, that I am much intrigued by this.
It does seem to be Trifolium pratense - it has the characteristic/diagnostic stipules extended into a bristle-like point, even though the flower-head is almost cylindrical and distinctly stalked, and the calyx seems unusually inflated and with very unequal calyx-teeth (lowest tooth unusually long for T. pratense).
I thought it might be a related alien species, but I have not found any possibility.
There are many named varieties of T. pratense in Britain and in Europe, but I have not found a varietal name that matches your plant.
Certainly there is a lot of un-named and little-described variation even within native British populations, and introduction of foreign forms is always a possibility, even apart from the fodder crops that mostly fit var. sativum. What sort of place was it growing in? And what part of the country?
Definitely an oddity.
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