|  | 
14-09-2006, 04:26 PM
| | Active Member | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spencers Wood, Reading
Posts: 39
| | Unidentified photos If an other member is able to indentify a image submitted as 'Unidentified', is there a way of the owner changing description and entering it into the correct catagory?
Regards John | 
14-09-2006, 04:57 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 3,492
| | | Re: Unidentified photos The original poster needs to leave a message under the image in the Unidentified category and the editors will make the neccessary changes.
__________________ A poor life this if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare.
W.H.Davies | 
05-10-2006, 05:01 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scunthorpe, Nth Lincs
Posts: 1,315
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by wildone The original poster needs to leave a message under the image in the Unidentified category and the editors will make the neccessary changes. |
When ?
There are 35 pages in the Unidentified Gallery, going right back to the 3rd Dec 2004.
Some are ID'd, the vast majority not, as yet. In the first 4 pages there are only 13 images identified out of 120.
At that rate there is little point in putting a photo there for ID. It must be very frustrating for the poster (or should that be postee).
Other galleries have between 5 & 7 moderators, the Unidentified 1. No wonder things don't get moved, even after being ID'd.
__________________ Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana. Nature Photo's | 
05-10-2006, 05:22 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yateley, Hampshire
Posts: 1,313
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by wildone The original poster needs to leave a message under the image in the Unidentified category and the editors will make the neccessary changes. | I hope this also applies to submissions in the specific categories where a study has been mis-identified. I have made a request for just such an amendment to one of my images uploaded to the Fungi category. | 
05-10-2006, 06:27 PM
|  | Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,413
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Not all images placed in the unidentified are meant to be placed into the Gallery. Many are put there simply to be used in a forum post, to make one point or another. If any one particular owner requires an image to be placed into the gallery, then please put that comment in the reply box.
So far as moderators are concerned, that list is inaccurate. All editors can deal with unidentified images. | 
05-10-2006, 06:44 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sheffield, FPRSY
Posts: 4,893
| | | Re: Unidentified photos What happens to those - do they stay there indefinitely? I put a couple of bad photos in there for the 'out takes' thread, for instance, they're obviously not useful other than for a bit of fun ....
Wouldn't there be something to be said for having a separate gallery for such items? Quote: |
Originally Posted by glsammy Not all images placed in the unidentified are meant to be placed into the Gallery. Many are put there simply to be used in a forum post, to make one point or another. | | 
05-10-2006, 06:56 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 4,180
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by Tormentil When ?
There are 35 pages in the Unidentified Gallery, going right back to the 3rd Dec 2004.
Some are ID'd, the vast majority not, as yet. In the first 4 pages there are only 13 images identified out of 120.
At that rate there is little point in putting a photo there for ID. It must be very frustrating for the poster (or should that be postee).
Other galleries have between 5 & 7 moderators, the Unidentified 1. No wonder things don't get moved, even after being ID'd. | do you have a better suggestion?
Bear in mind that, after posting to the Unidentified Gallery, individuals are advised in the upload instructions to start a thread in the forum and include the unidentified photo within that. If that doesn't get an ID then it can't really be helped can it?
Us editors do try to go through them from time to time and, as Graham points out, it is not the case that only 1 editor deals with Unidentified images.
Matt | 
05-10-2006, 07:00 PM
|  | Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,413
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by Paul mabbott What happens to those - do they stay there indefinitely? I put a couple of bad photos in there for the 'out takes' thread, for instance, they're obviously not useful other than for a bit of fun ....
Wouldn't there be something to be said for having a separate gallery for such items? | So far as I'm aware, they stay there! If they're deleted, we'd have lots of forum threads with dead links, this is something we definitely don't want!
A separate Gallery for these kind of images is already there, and that's the Forum gallery! Unfortunately the wording implies this is only for images of buildings, etc, not wildlife shots, but if the image is never going to be in one of the main galleries, then please load them to the forum gallery.
Some tidying up of images will no doubt be done soon, moving forum images from unidentified and into the Forum Gallery.  | 
08-10-2006, 11:33 AM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yateley, Hampshire
Posts: 1,313
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by wildone The original poster needs to leave a message under the image in the Unidentified category and the editors will make the neccessary changes. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by cybershot I hope this also applies to submissions in the specific categories where a study has been mis-identified. I have made a request for just such an amendment to one of my images uploaded to the Fungi category. | In my limited experience as a newbie on site this does not appear to be happening, so would it be possible to install an edit facility so that members can amend their own titles/ decriptions? | 
21-10-2006, 07:16 AM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yateley, Hampshire
Posts: 1,313
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by cybershot In my limited experience as a newbie on site this does not appear to be happening, so would it be possible to install an edit facility so that members can amend their own titles/ decriptions? | Having complied with the instructions to post the revised title under the image without success, I engaged the help of a gallery editor via a PM and was given a very reasonable explanation of how the process works: 'Unfortunately at the moment there is no way the user can re-name an image in the unidentified or Forum Galleries. As users can upload directly without moderation into those two Galleries, it was decided that it would be best to remove the ability to rename and move images posted in this way, so that we have at least some control of where images end up.
It's no problem for me to go through the re-naming and moving, provided the details are made clear in a post under the image.'
Eventually after much prompting my images were re-titled as indicated and placed in the correct gallery.
Subsequently a new posting instruction appeared emblazoned in red above the images reply box: 'To change the title of this image, please write 'NEWTITLE -' together with the new information in the box below:'
In my experience it seems that this doesn't work either so I guess it's back to PM'ing individual editors in order to point out a required change. Well I suppose it's the thought that counts  | 
21-10-2006, 07:54 AM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 4,180
| | | Re: Unidentified photos you can always click the red exclamation mark to alert a moderator to the post and then request that it is renamed/moved. Many others use this route. The exclamation mark appears in any replies to the image, so if no-one has replied to your image you can reply yourself to access the exclamation mark.
Matt | 
21-10-2006, 09:43 AM
|  | Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,413
| | | Re: Unidentified photos I spent over four hours last week going through all the unidentified images, looking items I could re-name and move. I also searched the gallery twice last week for NEWTITLE and found nothing.
Apparently this isn't good enough. I apologise. | 
21-10-2006, 10:30 AM
|  | Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,413
| | | Re: Unidentified photos So far as I'm aware there are now NO images waiting to be re-named. | 
21-10-2006, 10:38 AM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 4,180
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by cybershot Having complied with the instructions to post the revised title under the image without success, I engaged the help of a gallery editor via a PM and was given a very reasonable explanation of how the process works: 'Unfortunately at the moment there is no way the user can re-name an image in the unidentified or Forum Galleries. As users can upload directly without moderation into those two Galleries, it was decided that it would be best to remove the ability to rename and move images posted in this way, so that we have at least some control of where images end up.
It's no problem for me to go through the re-naming and moving, provided the details are made clear in a post under the image.'
Eventually after much prompting my images were re-titled as indicated and placed in the correct gallery.
Subsequently a new posting instruction appeared emblazoned in red above the images reply box: 'To change the title of this image, please write 'NEWTITLE -' together with the new information in the box below:'
In my experience it seems that this doesn't work either so I guess it's back to PM'ing individual editors in order to point out a required change. Well I suppose it's the thought that counts  |
I'm sorry that you feel the mods aren't giving you value for money  | 
21-10-2006, 11:04 AM
|  | Dame Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: exmouth devon uk
Posts: 5,135
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by glsammy I spent over four hours last week going through all the unidentified images, looking items I could re-name and move. I also searched the gallery twice last week for NEWTITLE and found nothing.
Apparently this isn't good enough. I apologise. |
I have been using the NEWTITLE and just checked my images again and lo and behold they are now renamed Thankyou Graham.Now all I need is my unidentified ones ID'd but my forum posts on those have dropped a rather long way and fungijohn wasnt here then.(Please help John  ) Oh and I have even more to go in unidentified but I wont flood it just yet.Dont want the mods to be stressed out with to many at once  They are doing a grand job.Dont forget everyone they are volunteers and this site is growing by the day.Fungi must be one of the hardest things to identify I have four books and still my folder of unidentified is growin longer 
__________________ :) A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though he knows that you are slightly cracked:D www.cherrybees.co.uk | 
21-10-2006, 12:59 PM
|  | Administrator and Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the Malvern Hills
Posts: 3,142
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by cybershot Having complied with the instructions to post the revised title under the image without success, I engaged the help of a gallery editor via a PM and was given a very reasonable explanation of how the process works: 'Unfortunately at the moment there is no way the user can re-name an image in the unidentified or Forum Galleries. As users can upload directly without moderation into those two Galleries, it was decided that it would be best to remove the ability to rename and move images posted in this way, so that we have at least some control of where images end up.
It's no problem for me to go through the re-naming and moving, provided the details are made clear in a post under the image.'
Eventually after much prompting my images were re-titled as indicated and placed in the correct gallery.
Subsequently a new posting instruction appeared emblazoned in red above the images reply box: 'To change the title of this image, please write 'NEWTITLE -' together with the new information in the box below:'
In my experience it seems that this doesn't work either so I guess it's back to PM'ing individual editors in order to point out a required change. Well I suppose it's the thought that counts  | Hi cybershot,
The NEWTITLE text enables the gallery eds to search for images that need to be renamed so that they can change them. We'd like to be able to add a text box where members can do it themselves, but initial enquiries have shown that it will cost us several hundred pounds for a programmer to modify the gallery software. Obviously, if you'd like to raise the money for this then we'd be more than happy to install it.
Cheers
Stuart | 
21-10-2006, 03:13 PM
|  | Knight Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chilterns
Posts: 7,692
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by cybershot Having complied with the instructions to post the revised title under the image without success, I engaged the help of a gallery editor via a PM and was given a very reasonable explanation of how the process works: 'Unfortunately at the moment there is no way the user can re-name an image in the unidentified or Forum Galleries. As users can upload directly without moderation into those two Galleries, it was decided that it would be best to remove the ability to rename and move images posted in this way, so that we have at least some control of where images end up.
It's no problem for me to go through the re-naming and moving, provided the details are made clear in a post under the image.'
Eventually after much prompting my images were re-titled as indicated and placed in the correct gallery.
Subsequently a new posting instruction appeared emblazoned in red above the images reply box: 'To change the title of this image, please write 'NEWTITLE -' together with the new information in the box below:'
In my experience it seems that this doesn't work either so I guess it's back to PM'ing individual editors in order to point out a required change. Well I suppose it's the thought that counts  | of course if you feel that it is for some reson urgent that a particular image is correctly identiefied you could just reupload it to the correct gallery titling it with is correct id as you would any other image - once that was done you could just put a note under the unidentified one noting what you have done
okay this would be slightly more work for you , but presumably this wouldnt be a problem given the urgency in getting your images correctly titled
__________________ "spell checking courtesy of Magners Irish cider " | 
21-10-2006, 03:48 PM
| | Member of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Devon
Posts: 379
| | | Re: Unidentified photos I enjoy the unidentified section.
Just thought I'd say that! | 
21-10-2006, 07:01 PM
|  | Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,413
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Cybershot had ONE fungi image in the unidentified gallery that hadn't been re-named, so I'm completely mystified what this Thread has been all about. | 
21-10-2006, 10:18 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Basingstoke, Hampshire
Posts: 1,111
| | | Re: Unidentified photos To be perfectly honest I don't know what all the fuss is about.
I regularly post pictures to the unidentified gallery for inclusion in a forum thread. Once identified I ask the Moderator to re-title and transfer to the appropriate gallery. This has always been done promptly and without failure.
I am a relatively new member and I must say that I have been very impressed with both the process and the effiiciency of the moderators which is a credit to the site.
Gerry | 
23-10-2006, 01:38 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yateley, Hampshire
Posts: 1,313
| | | Re: Unidentified photos My apologies for letting the frustrations of dealing with the intransigencies of a letting agent spill over onto this site last week. My untimely and unjustifiable display of impatience was out of order and I would like to thank Graham for his assistance in re-locating my images.  | 
23-10-2006, 04:18 PM
|  | Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,413
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by cybershot My apologies for letting the frustrations of dealing with the intransigencies of a letting agent spill over onto this site last week. My untimely and unjustifiable display of impatience was out of order and I would like to thank Graham for his assistance in re-locating my images.  | Should I make you grovel at my feet whilst I consider your apology?
I'll be generous this time, apology duly accepted..  | 
25-10-2006, 04:01 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 4,180
| | | Re: Unidentified photos Quote: |
Originally Posted by matt_xyz you can always click the red exclamation mark to alert a moderator to the post and then request that it is renamed/moved. Many others use this route. The exclamation mark appears in any replies to the ima | | |