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10-04-2006, 09:21 PM
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When you have uploaded images to the gallery, please take a few minutes to make sure that the wording has not been altered by the editors. If it has it means that you have not been doing it right. Please then copy the way the editors have done it. Remember about upper and lower case, spaces and putting the title in the keywords.
Thank you, in anticipation that soon you will all do it right.
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10-04-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wildone When you have uploaded images to the gallery, please take a few minutes to make sure that the wording has not been altered by the editors. If it has it means that you have not been doing it right. Please then copy the way the editors have done it. Remember about upper and lower case, spaces and putting the title in the keywords.
Thank you, in anticipation that soon you will all do it right.
wildone |  Hi wildone.I wonder if you could please give me some advice.I have been worrying about file sizes and wondered if some of my images have been reduced too much and that is why so many have been refused.It would help if I knew something about what is wrong as I havent a clue.I have PSP X and I have tried to reduce too 800 pixels and sometimes they are still quite large.Am I damaging them by reducing them too much.Also i have tried doing it by percentages but that varies too.It is so frustrating as today I have taken some of my best shots with my old finepix whilst waiting for the other one to come back from repair. 
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10-04-2006, 11:21 PM
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Cherrybee the maximum pixel size for an image is 1280 on the largest side. but it may be better to make them nearer 800 pixels on the largest side. Images also need to be less than 250kb. If your software, which I don't know, gives a percentage compression then 70% or 80% should be about right. Please make sure that your images are in focus and not over exposed. Also remember that this is a wildlife site for British Wildlife, not foreign nationals. I hope this helps as we enjoy seeing images from members and do not like having to reject unsuitable images.
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10-04-2006, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wildone Cherrybee the maximum pixel size for an image is 1280 on the largest side. But for many reasons it would be better to be nearer 800 pixels on the largest side. Images also need to be less than 250kb. If your software, which I don't know, gives a percentage compression then 70% or 80% should be about right. Please make sure that your images are in focus and not over exposed. Also remember that this is a wildlife site for British Wildlife, not foreign nationals. I hope this helps as we enjoy seeing images from members and do not like having to reject unsuitable images.
wildone | Well I think i am getting the sizes right and I use auto so I think the exposure is also right but as for the foreign nationals you do have a category for them.The ones I have taken today such as the black swan and the geese have been there a long time, are in the open on the brook at Dawlish and are free not in cages.If foreign nationals are not welcome why is there a catagory for them.
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10-04-2006, 11:44 PM
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The Foreign Nationals are for things that have escaped into the British Countryside. However the idea was not that anybody should go out and deliberately take pictures of them but to have done so accidentally. The category was opened to allow them to be kept. You have submitted several Black Swans which have been accepted but the time has come to call a halt. May I suggest that until you get your better camera and lens back perhaps you would be as well to concentrate on Wildflowers. You will not have the same trouble with focusing at a distance with those. Many Wildflowers are coming into bloom now so you should be able to find plenty, also insects, snails and fungi.
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11-04-2006, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by wildone The Foreign Nationals are for things that have escaped into the British Countryside. However the idea was not that anybody should go out and deliberately take pictures of them but to have done so accidentally. The category was opened to allow them to be kept. You have submitted several Black Swans which have been accepted but the time has come to call a halt. May I suggest that until you get your better camera and lens back perhaps you would be as well to concentrate on Wildflowers. You will not have the same trouble with focusing at a distance with those. Many Wildflowers are coming into bloom now so you should be able to find plenty, also insects, snails and fungi.
wildone | Well I am terribly sorry but I actually only sent one black swan tonight as it was a lovely shot of it.But I also sent a very good one of a common goose which was also refused and there is a couple in the gallery already.Mine was taken in a brook in a park area with my mallards.I did not realize there was a rule that you could not send them.It says Foreign plants and animals that have escaped from gardens, parks, private collections and zoos, and are found in the British countryside.Which mine were.Beryl and I both have health problems so we cannot walk too far.As this is in a park area and in the open where we can get close and it was a lovely day I took her out in my car for a lovely day out.I do take photos of other things but my first love are birds and I would get terribly bored.We are not experts with fancy cameras nor are we experts on wildlife.I have bought several books to help me and we search the net for info.I did like this site very much and until recently had no problems.It is not fun here anymore as we both feel we are being criticized a lot and we both feel it is time to leave but we dont really want to but are so limited as to where we can go to get the photos that are acceptable
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11-04-2006, 12:12 AM
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11-04-2006, 12:15 AM
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The black swan has lived and bread freely in the Dawlish wildlife brook for 40 years and is now a british resident.
It often can be seen swiming along the exmouth estuary and
I beleive glsamy has posted one from some where else that they live and one other person crisscross they have both added black swans to the galleryhas them near by up north.
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11-04-2006, 12:25 AM
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Beryl I'm sorry but the BOU has not as yet accepted the Black Swan as a British bird. That is our criterion.
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11-04-2006, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wildone Answered by PM | havent received any PM
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11-04-2006, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wildone Beryl I'm sorry but the BOU has not as yet accepted the Black Swan as a British bird. That is our criterion. | I do realise that ,
I just meant that as it has been I britain for 40 odd years it is a british resident although it is of course foreign national. Sorry . Should have been a bit clearer.
I don't see why though it still can't go under foreign national wildlife although as you say we have put up quite a few , so I guess fair is fair 
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11-04-2006, 12:38 AM
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Thank you Beryl.
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11-04-2006, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wildone Thank you Beryl. | Your welcome. I put up a pair earlier because they were so cute . I understand you will probably chuck them out. That's ok Ihave been browsing the gallery and I think I have three up already. Oops
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11-04-2006, 07:08 AM
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I need to come to Wildones defence here, we have many uploads a day to the gallery and have to take decisions on images based on the upload guidelines issued by Stuart and agreed by the other moderators. As the site has grown the images submitted have grown in numbers and quality, whilst we will accept a lower resolution image for a first in the database as the number of images increase so does the quality of what is allowed.
Both Winnie and I are disabled and whilst we understand the problem we cannot make concessions for individuals. If a good image has been submitted it will be accepted and you have many in the gallery to prove that is the case so there is no bias towards anyone on this site. I am sure if you were to take over our roles you would feel no differently and we give our time for free.
Don't take any rejections personally, just think about the image and how you can improve for the next time you upload.
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11-04-2006, 08:24 AM
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As far as foreign nationals go if we were to omit all flora and fauna that have been either introduced or have escaped from captivity into this country, we'd have a large gap in the British List!
I know we have to draw a line somewhere, and using the BOU list for example seems sensible but, to my mind such creatures as Grey Squirrels, Little Owls, Mandarin Ducks etc, are foreign species no matter whos list they are on. Also not everybody has the BOU list, or wants to spend time serching through the list. They just want to upload pictures which they have taken, and find interesting, so I don't see the harm in putting them in the Foreign Nationals Gallery. To my mind this gallery isn't particularly full anyway.
It seems to come down to server space everytime, but I would rather see a download limit for each member than restrict some images when there is after all a gallery (Foreign Nationals) for them. The other option would be to delete the gallery! |
11-04-2006, 08:29 AM
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It seems to come down to server space everytime, but I would rather see a download limit for each member than restrict some images when there is after all a gallery (Foreign Nationals) for them. The other option would be to delete the gallery!
| The Foreign nationals came about before the current guidlines were introduced, as Wildone states it was somewhere for us to put images that had been uploaded and identified as Foreign. It was never really meant to be a category in its own right, since the site is Wild about Britain.
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11-04-2006, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by digi The Foreign nationals came about before the current guidlines were introduced, as Wildone states it was somewhere for us to put images that had been uploaded and identified as Foreign. It was never really meant to be a category in its own right, since the site is Wild about Britain. | Wild  About British Foreign Nationals |
11-04-2006, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cherrybee Hi wildone.I wonder if you could please give me some advice.I have been worrying about file sizes and wondered if some of my images have been reduced too much and that is why so many have been refused.It would help if I knew something about what is wrong as I havent a clue.I have PSP X and I have tried to reduce too 800 pixels and sometimes they are still quite large.Am I damaging them by reducing them too much.Also i have tried doing it by percentages but that varies too.It is so frustrating as today I have taken some of my best shots with my old finepix whilst waiting for the other one to come back from repair. | Hi Cherrybee,
I've just added some more details to our gallery upload thread to give some background info on the process of editing images for the gallery.
Unfortunately, I think that some of your photos aren't being posted in the gallery because they don't quite meet the quality levels that are required. As you mentioned, most of your images are being taken on an old Fuji Finepix, and it appears as though the photos are a bit too grainy, high-contrast, pixelated or out-of-focus. It is also likely that some of the images have already been repeated several times in the gallery, as we now have nearly 100 mallards and 150 robins etc, and so the quality will need to be even higher.
Obviously, we don't expect everyone to produce professional photographs, but in order for the gallery to looks its best, we do need to ensure that the photos are good quality and meet the guidelines in this thread.
We're sorry if this means that some of your images aren't making it through. However, if you'd like to send me any particular image that you think should have been posted in the gallery, then please PM me with a copy of the photo and I'll be happy to take a look at it for you.
Cheers
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11-04-2006, 11:45 AM
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I am terribly sorry if it sounds as though I am being critical of the gallery editors,that was not what I meant to do.I am just really puzzled at one of my images that was rejected as it looked so good to my eye and trying to get it the right size can be a little hit or miss.The particular one I sent of a Common goose was, I thought,one of my best as I needed no zoom and did not alter it in any way except to reduce the size to fit the criteria.My point is unless I know what is wrong how do I make sure I get it right.I tried to send the image with the pm but it doesnt give the choice of uploadig from my computer so I am putting it here instead.
Also I am puzzled about a jackdaw which Fungi had commented on and said he liked it but when I got the email about the comment I clicked the link to be told I didnt have access and am puzzled as to how Fungijohn could see it and not me
I think the editors are doing a wonderful job but I cannot improve if I dont know what is wrong
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11-04-2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cherrybee I am terribly sorry if it sounds as though I am being critical of the gallery editors,that was not what I meant to do.I am just really puzzled at one of my images that was rejected as it looked so good to my eye and trying to get it the right size can be a little hit or miss.The particular one I sent of a Common goose was, I thought,one of my best as I needed no zoom and did not alter it in any way except to reduce the size to fit the criteria.My point is unless I know what is wrong how do I make sure I get it right.I tried to send the image with the pm but it doesnt give the choice of uploadig from my computer so I am putting it here instead.
Also I am puzzled about a jackdaw which Fungi had commented on and said he liked it but when I got the email about the comment I clicked the link to be told I didnt have access and am puzzled as to how Fungijohn could see it and not me
I think the editors are doing a wonderful job but I cannot improve if I dont know what is wrong | If you have problems with rejections and don't agree with the gallery editors decision then appeal to Stuart via PM and he can arrange for you to reupload your image so he can view it.
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11-04-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by digi If you have problems with rejections and don't agree with the gallery editors decision then appeal to Stuart via PM and he can arrange for you to re upload your image so he can view it. | Uh! I put this particular one in my post because farther down Stuart told me to PM the photo to him and I couldn't see a way of attaching it to a PM so posted it in the forum.I am only asking for help to know how I can improve on my photos and if by reducing their size I am spoiling them and what I might be doing wrong.This used to be a fun site but now it is getting too technical for me and I dint understand why i am getting such barbed comments  .when I am asking for help.I have already said I didn't mean to sound critical about the editors.,but I am not getting any constructive criticism at what i am doing wrong all of a sudden
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11-04-2006, 12:11 PM
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Hi Cherrybee,
I think the issue with this goose photo was not the technical quality of the shot, but the fact it is a foreign national. It seems the editors are trying to keep shots of foreign nationals to a minimum and perhaps only including shots of exceptional quality or of wildlife not already represented in the foreign national gallery.
That's my interpretation of the above discussion anyway. I don't think you've been getting barbed comments, just that the gallery editors have a difficult job. When they refuse certain shots there is always the risk that the individual will take exception to their decision. For this reason it has been suggested that you can 'appeal' to Stu.
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11-04-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cherrybee Well I am terribly sorry but I actually only sent one black swan tonight as it was a lovely shot of it.But I also sent a very good one of a common goose which was also refused and there is a couple in the gallery already.Mine was taken in a brook in a park area with my mallards.I did not realize there was a rule that you could not send them.It says Foreign plants and animals that have escaped from gardens, parks, private collections and zoos, and are found in the British countryside.Which mine were.Beryl and I both have health problems so we cannot walk too far.As this is in a park area and in the open where we can get close and it was a lovely day I took her out in my car for a lovely day out.I do take photos of other things but my first love are birds and I would get terribly bored.We are not experts with fancy cameras nor are we experts on wildlife.I have bought several books to help me and we search the net for info.I did like this site very much and until recently had no problems.It is not fun here anymore as we both feel we are being criticized a lot and we both feel it is time to leave but we dont really want to but are so limited as to where we can go to get the photos that are acceptable | I'm sorry you seam to be having probs . I have just noticed you are in cluding my health I would apreciate it if you do not include my heath probs in this Cherrybee, Thanks
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