Posting unidentified Images.

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Tursiops2

Touche, mon ami ...and thats about exhausted my conversational french, and me

pas de problem - and mine unles you want to discuss how you get to la picine

[Tursiops2]

Originally Posted by eeyore

pas de problem - and mine unles you want to discuss how you get to la picine

oh I can manage that, i think, had plenty of practice tonight
Et maintenant, au lit. Bon nuit toujours.

T... T... T2! (excuse me, gotta terrible cold)

[glsammy]

Originally Posted by JennyS

OK folks I'm not used to forum posting, and I'm obviously one of your thicker users.....thank you glsammy, I've now put images into the 'unidentified' gallery' but can find no sign of them there to get the "Forum Image Code:".......
Sorry if I'm starting to sound a bit uptight.....

I can see four images you've uploaded today Jenny. It obviously worked! You should see the code box when you view the image.

I've just spotted the thread you created, with correctly linked images.

[JennyS]

Hi Eeyore - yes, finally managed!
The first try that didn't show up was me trying to load three images simultaneously....after the 'experiment' got there I put the rest in one at a time........

Just a thought, but would it be worth putting 'unidentified' at the top rather than the bottom of the page?

And Tursiops2 no insult taken! I can be a bit slow when it comes to copping onto something unfamilar.

[glsammy]

For anyone interested, there are now Video Guides available that show the process to upload images and to link images in forum posts.
If anyone can think of any other process that could do with making clearer, there's a thread started to leave any suggestions.

Video Guides

[cherrybee]

Originally Posted by glsammy

For anyone interested, there are now Video Guides available that show the process to upload images and to link images in forum posts.
If anyone can think of any other process that could do with making clearer, there's a thread started to leave any suggestions.

Video Guides

Just clicked the link just for interest as I already know how.What and excellent way of helping newcomers and others who have problems.Nice and easy to understand and follow well done Stuart.Must say I am rather flattered my images were the ones shown So I now know what day the screenshots were taken
I think it is very clear and I dont think it could be improved in any way as it is excellent

[Chris P]

Hi folks
add my 2p
I would not call myself an expert at all, as regards WWW but must say as a member of over a dozen different forums the way you have of uploading pictures, especially to the unidentified section, is about as 'UN' user friendly as it gets

all I want is to ID a bird - yet I sem to have been banging my head against the wall this morning trying to get what should be a simple answer

Forums should be simple for the masses to use... but after posting my question about ID - the post gets removed and I have spent half the morning reading how to ID my bird picture

I have uploaded the picture to the unidentified bird gallery.. added some comments about it's ID
but for the life of me I cannot find any threads about it
regards Chris

[agrumpycow]

Hi Chris, is this the thread you're on about? Once you have read a post it doesn't appear in the new posts again. It should be in your subscribed threads though. Hope this is what you meant?
http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...4-bird-id.html

[agrumpycow]

Originally Posted by agrumpycow

Hi Chris, is this the thread you're on about? Once you have read a post it doesn't appear in the new posts again. It should be in your subscribed threads though. Hope this is what you meant?
http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...4-bird-id.html

And you can get to your subscribed threads by clicking on the icon with the tick below the 'Wild about Britain' logo'

[christina]

Originally Posted by glsammy

Can I remind users to PLEASE post any unidentified image into the unidentified gallery. That way the image will be available to create a thread to get the correct id. This applies especially if the image is under or over-sized. By posting to any other Gallery, your risking your shots being rejected.
Today alone I've had over a dozen images posted to the wrong Gallery, with no attempt at identification.

Oops, apologies, I seem to be one of the guilty...I had posted in the pic in "unidentified" but it was not identified, as soon as I put it into the forum, it was identified. Grovel, grovel, apologies

[glsammy]

Originally Posted by christina

Oops, apologies, I seem to be one of the guilty...I had posted in the pic in "unidentified" but it was not identified, as soon as I put it into the forum, it was identified. Grovel, grovel, apologies

The forum is second best Christina, I'll let you off that one! It's posts to the moderated Galleries that can cause rejection.

[christina]

Thank you Graham, feelings of guilt now diminishing.

[Pete Collins]

As a New Member I have to say that I think that generally this a great site. However, it does not seem at all clear to me how you should go about getting photo's identified. This needs to be made clear somewhere, on the home page or in a FAQ for instance.

FWIW, I think this is the correct procedure (it's taken me sometime to suss it out, and I'm reasonably computer literate and not particularly thick):
1) you upload your unidentified photo in the normal way(as shown in the helpful new video), selecting the 'Unidentified' gallery.
2) you then create a Forum thread in the normal way (again as shown in the helpful new video) with a link to the photo in the Unidentified gallery (as per video).

I'm fairly sure that many people are just putting their photo's in the Unidentified gallery. Some people, like me, have gone through that gallery and replied to them there with suggested identifications. I've done that a few times, only to find later that the photo had already been identified through a Forum thread.

Incidentally, my posts on the Unidentified Gallery don't seem to get counted towards my initial goal of getting 25 posts and becoming an Active Member. Is there any reason for this?

[Pete Collins]

A few other points ...

I assume that once a photo has been identified, it then has to be uploaded again into the correct Gallery in the normal manner (if so desired). There isn't a mechanism for moving it from the Unidentified to another gallery? I appreciate it would still need to be checked by a moderator, as the rules for the Unidentified gallery are much looser than for other galleries. If there were such a mechanism, it would save file space on the WAB computers as there would be just the one photo rather than two.

Also, can images be removed from the Unidentified gallery once they have been identified?

I don't suppose it is possible, but it would be nice if each photo in the Unidentified gallery had a link to the corresponding Forum thread. I like to check the Unidentified gallery now and then - if I can identify something, I've been posting there on the Unidentified gallery. I now realise I need to somehow find the corresponding Forum thread.

Perhaps I am thicker than I thought, but quite frankly I find it all a bit messy. It would be far simpler (and more intuitive) to simply load the photos to the Unidentified gallery and have them identified there (as I've mistakenly been doing), rather than in separate Forum threads.

[glsammy]

Originally Posted by Pete Collins

A few other points ...

I assume that once a photo has been identified, it then has to be uploaded again into the correct Gallery in the normal manner (if so desired). There isn't a mechanism for moving it from the Unidentified to another gallery? I appreciate it would still need to be checked by a moderator, as the rules for the Unidentified gallery are much looser than for other galleries. If there were such a mechanism, it would save file space on the WAB computers as there would be just the one photo rather than two.

Also, can images be removed from the Unidentified gallery once they have been identified?

I don't suppose it is possible, but it would be nice if each photo in the Unidentified gallery had a link to the corresponding Forum thread. I like to check the Unidentified gallery now and then - if I can identify something, I've been posting there on the Unidentified gallery. I now realise I need to somehow find the corresponding Forum thread.

Perhaps I am thicker than I thought, but quite frankly I find it all a bit messy. It would be far simpler (and more intuitive) to simply load the photos to the Unidentified gallery and have them identified there (as I've mistakenly been doing), rather than in separate Forum threads.

The method to get your images moved or re-named is to report the image, giving the corrected information in the report. You do this by clicking on the image tools icon on the right hand side. I then re-name, check and/or move the image for you. This prevents the need to reload the image.

[matt_xyz]

Pete,

You don't have to start a forum thread if you don't want to. Many users do simply look through the Unidentified Gallery and leave comments below the images. However, we did find that not that many people were doing this so a thread in the forum was found to be a helpful way of finding IDs. As I say, if you look at an image in the gallery you don't then need to search for the relevant thread, just place your suggested ID in a comment below the image.

Once an image has been identified you can alert an editor to move it to the relevant gallery by clicking on 'Image Tools' which is the box above and to the right of the image. You should then select 'report to moderator' and state the correct ID.

Finally, comments below images do not add to your post count.

Matt

[glsammy]

Even uploading images doesn't count at the moment. It's a software bug that will in due course be corrected. I'd be almost at 10,000 by now if it worked!

[Gill Catton]

starting the id in a thread also helps those experts who can help out with fly Id for example but have less interest in other things, as they can go straight to the insect forum rather than trawling through the unid'd gallery which can grow very quickly even during a single day.

[Pete Collins]

Thanks very much for your comments, Matt, Graham and Gill - much appreciated.

I've only recently become interested in wildflowers, so I'll no doubt soon try out the Unidentified gallery. My main hobby is walking, and I photograph any new flower I see when I go walking, then try to identify them later. I use a couple of reference books and this and some other web sites, but they occasionally seem to contradict one another. The Unidentified gallery will be great where I can't work out an identification for myself.

I take Gill's point about an expert in one field only wanting to look through that particular forum, than see photos of everything in the Unidentified gallery. As well as wildflowers, I know a little about birds and also recognise some of the more common butterflies, so I find it easier to scan all the photos in the Unidentified gallery rather than go through the forums. I've managed to identify a few common things - it was just a bit frustrating to later see that they'd already been identified on a Forum!

Perhaps there should be a FAQ explaining what you should do with Unidentified photos, including how you get them moved once your happy that they've been identified. Apologies if this is already explained somewhere and I've missed it.