To All Members - Unidentified Gallery

wildone · #1 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 11:00 AM

There are 41 unidentified images in the Unidentified Galley. A few minutes spent by each and every one of us might hopefully reduce that number and make the gallerys even more useful to those using WAB as a means of identifying their finds. Also will go to show that we 'know our onions' or whatever.Thanks
wildone

John · #2 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wildone

There are 41 unidentified images in the Unidentified Galley. A few minutes spent by each and every one of us might hopefully reduce that number and make the gallerys even more useful to those using WAB as a means of identifying their finds. Also will go to show that we 'know our onions' or whatever.Thanks
wildone

Just an idea. I would have thought by now that you had a feel of which members are conversant with a particular section of Wildlife. i.e My specialist subject would be Birds, Fourcreeks, Dragonflies etc.

I would have thought it possible that whenever an unidentified subject goes into the gallery admin, or whatever other means. could alert that particular member(s). That way if an unidentified bird was to go into the gallery I, or any other birding person, could check it out straight away and hopefully ID it. The same could work for any other photo whether it be flower, insect or anything else that has a chance of being identified.

John

wildone · #3 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 12:28 PM

John, some of these go back to early last year. At that time there were few enough members let alone knowing their specialities.

I certainly take on board your suggestion for current images. Perhaps when we have the results of the member survey it will make it easier to know who is conversant with what.

I suppose anoher way would be to put the image into open forum and let whoever can, do. This though has been tried in the past with varying degrees of success.

Well we'll keep trying!

Cheers

wildone

digi · #4 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 03:14 PM

We could always post a link in to an identification forum from the gallery entry, then move the images once members had agreed on the correct category.

Digi

Diane · #5 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 06:28 PM

I have had a swift look through the unidentified gallery and so far I have only been able to come up with a suggestion for this photo:

It would help if members could indicate where the photos were taken - some appear to be from collections, so will obviously not be British species.

wildone · #6 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 07:06 PM

Thank you for trying Diane. This one could well be from a collection as others either side by the same photographer have been IDed as Foreign Nationals.

StuartDH · #7 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 07:26 PM

Yep, I'm fairly sure that this was one of the big collection in the public park at Grange-over-sands

Diane · #8 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 07:34 PM

Well, it's definitely a 'Ruddy Duck type' - just a little puzzled by the colouring. Maybe John will have more of a clue. John?

John · #9 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 08:32 PM

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Well, it's definitely a 'Ruddy Duck type' - just a little puzzled by the colouring. Maybe John will have more of a clue. John?

I don't agree Diane. I think it's possibly an Aythya hybrid, possibly Pochard x ?. Look at the nail marking on the bill. There's possibly even Ringed necked duck in it as well.

I have to hold my hands up and say I wouldn't be confident on any ID I was to place on this duck.

wildone · #10 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 09:10 PM

John, if it is a Pochard x it would still be a British birds wouldn't it?

John · #11 (**permalink**) 13-02-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wildone

John, if it is a Pochard x it would still be a British birds wouldn't it?

Yes, but not as a full species.

There are such a lot of Aythya hybrids around nowadays and some of them closely resemble some full species.

John

Diane · #12 (**permalink**) 15-02-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by John

I don't agree Diane. I think it's possibly an Aythya hybrid, possibly Pochard x ?. Look at the nail marking on the bill. There's possibly even Ringed necked duck in it as well.

I have to hold my hands up and say I wouldn't be confident on any ID I was to place on this duck.

I immediately thought Pochard due to the colouring of the head and neck, but then noticed the 'stiff-tail type' tail and a blue colouring on the bill.

Mystery!

Mollie · #13 (**permalink**) 15-02-2006, 06:58 PM

This one isn't wildlife, tis a domestic goose

This is some sort of mallard cross male in eclipse

John · #14 (**permalink**) 15-02-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mollie

This is some sort of mallard cross male in eclipse

I think that is about the best gues you will get. I doubt if anyone could come up with what it is crossed with.

John

wildone · #15 (**permalink**) 15-02-2006, 07:20 PM

Thanks Mollie and John

jerryh · #16 (**permalink**) 22-02-2006, 05:43 AM

White-faced Whistling Duck

Turtletagger · #17 (**permalink**) 22-02-2006, 07:45 AM

Mabe I can help again. I use the old 1957 Key to the Wildfowl of the world by Peter Scott, found this book tucked away in an old charity shop, probably one of the best books about Wildfowl. Peter Scotts illustrations are so close to realism. The first Picture had me confused so I left it out from my previous attempts of identification, I was hoping someone would come forward to identify it. After much deliberation I am almost convinced that this bird is a female European Pochard (Aythya ferina), but, it could also be a female Redhead (Aythya americana) or a female Canvasback (Aythya vallisneria). If I had to chose between them then I would chose the Pochard. 2nd pic is a facinating picture of a domestic Goose of unknown origin. The duck in eclips is also of an unknown origin and I would call it a domestic cross. The last picture is indeed a White-faced Tree or Whistling Duck (Dendrocygna viduata) from Tropical South America, Africa and Madagascar.

Tinkerbell · #18 (**permalink**) 22-02-2006, 08:24 AM

Well done Wildone for coordinating the work on the unidentified pictures, and solving many of the puzzles yourself. I must admit that as a unashamed amateur I love having a go at solving some of the puzzles - it's part of the fun of visiting the site.

Boddie's picture of an unidentified flower in Sutton Park has got me guessing - it looks a bit like witch hazel, but obviously isn't this plant. (Search unidentified wildflowers). What can it be?

wildone · #19 (**permalink**) 22-02-2006, 06:22 PM

Sorry Tinks but can you put it on the forum. I am not sure which one you mean.

fbcpmike · #20 (**permalink**) 23-02-2006, 07:57 AM

I think Tinkerbell means this one - http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ga...1_original.jpg - it's the only one from Sutton by Boddie in the Unidentified gallery. I've no idea what it is.

Tinkerbell · #21 (**permalink**) 23-02-2006, 08:17 AM

I hadn't seen the one you are referring to Mike which is also a puzzle. This is the one I had in mind - http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ga...mage-1640.html - equally baffling.

Never mind - it keeps the brain ticking over!

henrya · #22 (**permalink**) 23-02-2006, 12:44 PM

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ga...1_original.jpg

This is Marsh Lousewort (Pedicularis palustris)

henrya

henrya · #23 (**permalink**) 23-02-2006, 12:48 PM

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ga...mage-1640.html

This is a sedge (Carex species) Not really enough detail in the picture to identify it, but just possibly Carnation Sedge (Carex panicea). Have you any more pictures, Boddie?

henrya

wildone · #24 (**permalink**) 23-02-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by henrya

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/ga...1_original.jpg

This is Marsh Lousewort (Pedicularis palustris)

henrya

Thanks henrya. Another one finds a name.