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24-09-2008, 04:38 PM
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| | | More detailed mayfly photo's for indentification I took these earlier today and this is about as best detail as i could get! | 
24-09-2008, 04:44 PM
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| | | Re: More detailed mayfly photo's for indentification Pond Olive
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24-09-2008, 04:54 PM
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| | | Re: More detailed mayfly photo's for indentification Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Morgan Pond Olive | Many Thanks Lance
I guessed it might be
They have larger eyes than most i was reading | 
24-09-2008, 05:38 PM
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| | | Re: More detailed mayfly photo's for indentification As an example of what I meant in the previous thread, Lance said pond olive which I belive is a generic name for the Cloeon genus. Its a relatively easy genus to ID as they only have two wings (or 2 very reduced wings) appose to 4 which most mayflies have. Now the part where you need to see the wings becomes evident when you want to get the ID to a species. The two common ones in ponds which this is likely to be are Cloeon dipterum and Cloeon simile. The difference between the two is C.dipterum has 3-5 cross veins in the pterostigma (a small cell on the edge of the wing) and C.simile has 9-11 cross veins. So you can see you would probrably need a microscope to tell which it is.
Also of interest this one has recently emerged you can see the wings are a grey colour, it will moult again before it breeds when its wings will become clear this is when they are at their best to ID.
I hope this makes sense and im not sounding like a kill joy. | 
24-09-2008, 07:39 PM
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| | | Re: More detailed mayfly photo's for indentification Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogghound As an example of what I meant in the previous thread, Lance said pond olive which I belive is a generic name for the Cloeon genus. Its a relatively easy genus to ID as they only have two wings (or 2 very reduced wings) appose to 4 which most mayflies have. Now the part where you need to see the wings becomes evident when you want to get the ID to a species. The two common ones in ponds which this is likely to be are Cloeon dipterum and Cloeon simile. The difference between the two is C.dipterum has 3-5 cross veins in the pterostigma (a small cell on the edge of the wing) and C.simile has 9-11 cross veins. So you can see you would probrably need a microscope to tell which it is.
Also of interest this one has recently emerged you can see the wings are a grey colour, it will moult again before it breeds when its wings will become clear this is when they are at their best to ID.
I hope this makes sense and im not sounding like a kill joy. | Many Thanks for your very informative reply Dogghound
The Latin names are useful as well.
I'll probably look them up online a little later and see what i can find
I guessed that one had just emerged as i saw the nymph surface and i went to get a cup of tea and when i came back that mayfly was sitting on the surface of the pond before making its may up some blades of grass.
I'm so glad now that i surrounded the pond area with rocks and meadow turf
as for such a small pond i've managed to attract a wealth of wildlife including dragonflies after just 18 months | 
24-09-2008, 07:42 PM
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| | | Re: More detailed mayfly photo's for indentification Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouncytigger I'm so glad now that i surrounded the pond area with rocks and meadow turf
as for such a small pond i've managed to attract a wealth of wildlife including dragonflies after just 18 months  | Its good to hear, ponds are very important for wildlife, you will find as your pond matures you will get more and more interesting creatures visiting it. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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