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Old 01-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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Amazing! well I think so.

In May, I placed a large (suitcase size) plastic container in the shelter of shrubs in the ground so that the top was level with the ground. I placed a few pieces of broken slab to act as shelves and hiding places, then transferred as much water from our patio pool into it till it was full. I added blanket weed, bog bean and a couple of other bits an pieces. (Oh, and replaced the patio pool water with fresh).

The pool remained unchanged for a few week, then out of no-where not only did we get a frog, but a newt as well. The frog we notice comes and goes, almost to the minute. The newt we haven't seen for ages.

BUT, yesterday we saw what we believe is baby newts with front legs and sort of fins. They are about the length of a penny. So far we've seen three. Tomorrow I will add a pic if there is a facility on this site and when I have more time.

Further to all that, under bog bean leaves are globules of clear stuff with black dots in them. Google searches seem to suggest this is newt spawn.

But that's where we are mystified, as we also have lengths of slime with lots of black dots in. Yes, I know you will suggest toad spawn, but I'm told this is in much longer lengths like a shoe lace.

Now it's over to you, any comments, question etc.
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:07 PM
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Hi, and welcome to WAB. I think your long shoe lace spawn is Toads, check this link:

BBC - Science & Nature - Wildfacts - Common toad
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In May, I placed a large (suitcase size) plastic container in the shelter of shrubs in the ground so that the top was level with the ground. I placed a few pieces of broken slab to act as shelves and hiding places, then transferred as much water from our patio pool into it till it was full. I added blanket weed, bog bean and a couple of other bits an pieces. (Oh, and replaced the patio pool water with fresh).

The pool remained unchanged for a few week, then out of no-where not only did we get a frog, but a newt as well. The frog we notice comes and goes, almost to the minute. The newt we haven't seen for ages.

BUT, yesterday we saw what we believe is baby newts with front legs and sort of fins. They are about the length of a penny. So far we've seen three. Tomorrow I will add a pic if there is a facility on this site and when I have more time.

Further to all that, under bog bean leaves are globules of clear stuff with black dots in them. Google searches seem to suggest this is newt spawn.

But that's where we are mystified, as we also have lengths of slime with lots of black dots in. Yes, I know you will suggest toad spawn, but I'm told this is in much longer lengths like a shoe lace.

Now it's over to you, any comments, question etc.
You could have some water snail eggs under the leaves. Do they look like this.

http://www.aquariumplants.co.za/imag...snail-eggs.jpg
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Wow, the wildlife likes your pond!
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You could have some water snail eggs under the leaves. Do they look like this.

http://www.aquariumplants.co.za/imag...snail-eggs.jpg
We always used to get them in our paddling pool.
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:31 AM
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Hi guys. thanks for welcome.

Lets take the last first. Yes the globules DO look like that and yes, we have about 7/8 water snails of varing shapes. So that's the first problem solved I think.

Regarding the lengths of slime with eggs. What I failed to do is state that they are no more than 1" long. I know I said I'd produce some pics, but that will be after I've been out and had time to download them to computer. In no way are they more than 1" long, and the black dots within the slime are in two rows.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

I only hope I can do this, if so, there should be an underside of bog bean leaves. You will see TWO types of spawn. One is individual globules with a black dot inside, the other type is shorter than an inch with loads of black dots. Maybe you will be able to zoom. I eagerly await your opinions.



I've just noticed that if you Ctrl + +, you can zoom

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I only hope I can do this, if so, there should be an underside of bog bean leaves. You will see TWO types of spawn. One is individual globules with a black dot inside, the other type is shorter than an inch with loads of black dots. Maybe you will be able to zoom. I eagerly await your opinions.

Sorry islandman I can't make out any of the pic..
Is it covered in purple painted footprints

Can you upload them to the archive "forum images" as outside links get removed by the mods. Hopefully they will be bigger and easier to make out. You will probably have to resize them first. Details in the gallery.
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Hi sorry to bother you , you have newt tadpoles , they have gills untill they get older then can breath out of water , the parents will be under some moist wood somewhere local , a newt only lays a single egg at a time , but lays several in different parts of the oxygenator or pond weed , virtually invisable to see , you have to watch out for dragon fly lava , it will take 1 a day , also the great diving beetle , if it is toad spawn ( which is my guess ) the adults will return and eat the black dots out of the spawn , thats why you cannot have new frogs/toads in a newt pond , they feast on the black dots in the spawn , i was ripping some old decking up yesterday and came across the biggest great crested you have ever seen , across 2 hands , only joined today or i would of took a picture , added today a bit about re-location of newts , cheers Gaz
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Hi Gaz, I only joined yesterday.

Kayleigh. Purple footprints, ha ha ha. What you see is the reflection of the sky in the water. Being new to taking pics like this, I don't know how to avoid it. Gaz has obviously worked it out.

"Can you upload them to the archive "forum images" as outside links get removed by the mods. Hopefully they will be bigger and easier to make out. You will probably have to resize them first. Details in the gallery.".

What's all this then?. I have never come across this before. Time hasn't permitted me to browse much of this site, but I'm sure I've seen pics within the posts when I first came across this site. Am I to understand pics have to be inserted elsewhere for consideration by a moderator? if so, what is the reasoning behind that.

As for resizing, it might be useful to know exactly what size is required?. Most sites recommend 320 X 240 which I have used, is that wrong also?.

Phew, what a welcome.

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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Now you say it is no longer than 1 inch , it will not be toad spawn , maybe snails , beware of dragon fly lava and great diving beetle
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Hi Gaz, I only joined yesterday.

Kayleigh. Purple footprints, ha ha ha. What you see is the reflection of the sky in the water. Being new to taking pics like this, I don't know how to avoid it. Gaz has obviously worked it out.
Sorry


I have toad pawn and newts in my pond the adult toads do not come back and eat the black dots. The toad spawn/baby toads tastes horrible apparently even the newts in my pond will not eat them.
They will eat the tadpoles though.
The baby newts you are seeing with the gills are called efts.
The toadpoles will eat the newt eggs though. The newts will lay 200-300 eggs over the summer only 5 or 6 will make it to adulthood.
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Don't know how or why, but my pics have now been reduced in size, that's OK by me, just as long as they can make out the subject matter. Also I've been and enterered the pic in the archive, but who will see it lord knows, as I can't find it.
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Yep like you say only a few make it long term , i meant adult newts feast on spawns , got some big frogs in mi pond , as soon as i notice there spawn early in the year they have newts crawlig all over it , just been out and gave 20 pairs to a chap from one of the surrounding villages , cheers for now
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Don't know how or why, but my pics have now been reduced in size, that's OK by me, just as long as they can make out the subject matter. Also I've been and enterered the pic in the archive, but who will see it lord knows, as I can't find it.
Did you put it in "forum images" If you look in the gallery then click on the Archive link at the top, then go into "my photos" refresh the page they should be in there..If you then click on the pic and copy all the url It looks like this.

[url=http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/pictures/showph

Then post on the thread. Then your pic will be shown.
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Old 02-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Amazing! well I think so.

Despite spending much longer that I wished, I am still unable to locate my pic with the text submitted. After being informed of a correct procedure or risk moderators removing my contribution, I uploaded pics to achieve via browse.

In view of the fact that in my opinion, this unique round-about way of submitting pics appears to be above me, maybe I should look elsewhere for a forum that does not require such measures and actually welcomes new members more readily rather than give the impression you either do it right or risk the wrath of mods.
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Despite spending much longer that I wished, I am still unable to locate my pic with the text submitted. After being informed of a correct procedure or risk moderators removing my contribution, I uploaded pics to achieve via browse.

In view of the fact that in my opinion, this unique round-about way of submitting pics appears to be above me, maybe I should look elsewhere for a forum that does not require such measures and actually welcomes new members more readily rather than give the impression you either do it right or risk the wrath of mods.

The mods will give you all the help you need.. I'm sorry if I gave you wrong impression of them.

I know it can be a bit complicated but if you stick with it, it does get easier..
The mods have a job to do and removing threads and posts when people deleted the pics from outside links causes all sorts of problems.

As for welcoming new members, I don't think you will find another friendlier site on the web.
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