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Old 17-11-2007, 11:09 AM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

I am not surprised that all the dog owners who have commented on this thread have stated that "they are responsible owners who pick up their dog mess"... not because they are lying, but because these dog owners on this site (WAB) are clearly people who tend to think about the life around them in general.

I am depressingly afraid though, that whilst a number of dog owners on WAB have suggested that "responsible owners are in the majority", I have seen no evidence that such a claim holds water outside this forum.

I would suggest the complete opposite is true.
In my experience, irresponsible dog owners FAR outnumber responsible ones, and certainly around my neck of the woods, thats a fact, these days.

BWD's post on this also made a lot of sense. (edited)

"Although this thread is about dog owners not clearing up after their pets, the problem is, as so often now, down to two reasons laziness and selfishness. If we can over come both these factors in our society many of today's problems will vanish. Peoples attitudes need to change not only to save the planet, but to appreciate there is more to life than being an individual and to think of the consequences of not tidying up after your dog, dropping litter, driving at 40mph in a 30 zone setting fire to the dog poo bin, pushing shopping trolleys into a river and the list goes on and on and on.
Only when people start to think of others and of course our world as a whole, will things change....
...I will continue to pick up rubbish, it's not my job, and I like every one else pays council tax etc, but I've got to the point, if I don't do it who will."
Yep. Sad but true.

I've got to admit, I'm no dog-owner - I'm not particularly fond of dogs. I do like working dogs like some labradors, but the rest... mmmmm.... I'm not that fussed ta.
I was on a walk by some lakes the other day, and YET again my peace was absolutely shattered by some daft pratt and their yappy little rat who ran up to me and yipped and yapped at me.
No apology from the owner - just a "COME ON TIMMY! COME ON TIMMY!! TIMMY?! TIMMY!! COME ON TIMMY!!!" etc... until my brain decided to bleed through my nostrils.
Little Timmy decided to do a number 2 then.
I produced a bag (yes - its got to that stage when I take them wherever go, if I remember), scooped it up, stepped over the little rat who was dancing round my feet and handed it to the owner.
The owner said:
"Oh thankyou. I haven't got any bags!"

But that was a one off eh?
No.
I'm bored of all that. I'm bored pretending that the responsible owners are the majority. It simply isn't true and is not helping the situation.

Footnote:
Mark, if I may quote you also:

"Picking up other peoples dog muck is just going to encourage them even more not to bother,ie why do it yourself when someone else will come and do it.Unless, you know the owners address and go and dump it all on their lawn - they may get the message then!"

Maybe you've got a point. Maybe you're right. (Me and my sister used to do VERY bad things with irresponsible owners dog mess, when we were growing up - which probably gave them something to think about)!
But I'm of the opinion these days that maybe I can at least make the areas I enjoy walking / running in, just that little bit more pleasant if I pick up the odd "dog-egg" (nice term APC!) and give it over to the owner, telling them that they've dropped this...

Doug

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Old 17-11-2007, 12:01 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

[quote=mh68;198862 Unless, you know the owners address and go and dump it all on their lawn - they may get the message then

Mark H[/QUOTE]

I've done that myself once with a neighbour . I clean up after mine, not gonna be responsible for their dogs as well. If people can't hack having dogs they shouldn't have them. I got great satisfaction the day I flicked it on this certain persons garden and path right outside their door.
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Old 17-11-2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

I think while picking up a dogs mess and giving it to the owner while theyre still there, may make them a bit more responsible in the future, theres also a good chance that, if theyre lazy/inconsiderate enough not to pick it up themselves in the first place, they`ll likely fling the bag in a bush once out of sight anyway. Thats the way these peoples minds work sadly.
At least dog muck is biodegradeable, once its in a bag this isnt so,if the bag is then dumped.Cant win really....

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Old 17-11-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

I was actually thanked by an environmental health officer once who saw what I was doing. Yes I agree that irresponsible dog owners are in the majority, and yes it's a complete pain to have to pick up after other people's dogs, but like it or not it's our world too, and we have a right to a clean world. Let's set the irresponsible dog owners an example they will never forget.
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Old 17-11-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

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At least dog muck is biodegradeable, once its in a bag this isnt so,if the bag is then dumped.Cant win really....

Mark H
I thought those bags were biodegradeable? Otherwise, I agree, better to have the stuff in the open air. And hopefully an irresponsible dog owner will skid on it. I think a few on the spot fines would help. Bring back park keepers. There used to be lots of these once. If people didn't think they could get away with then they might??? think twice.
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Old 17-11-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

Trouble is Stripee, in areas where theres a risk of being fined they behave and pick the mess up.As soon as theyre out in the countryside away from prying eyes they dont bother.I would go as far as to say its one case where the majority are spoiling it for the minority

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Old 17-11-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

I have noticed this, much more dog mess on the lane I live on, which is a ROW. Noone to see. Whereas in London which used to be a minefield of dog turds, there has been a big improvement.
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

The warden of our local National Trust property has suggested that I kick dog turds into the undergrowth rather than contrbute to landfil with more plastic. I have found a source of 100% biodegradable bags tho - www.snoozzzeeedog.com if anyone else is interested.
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

When I was working I used to take a party of convicts to clean the local beachs, One beach at Parton in Cumbria had wonderful new sea defences,
people would pick up their dogs mess from below the high water mark carry it up the beach and throw it amongst the rocks of the sea wall, surely better to leave it on the sand for the tide to deal with.
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Old 19-11-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: Cleaning up after your dog

Just remember, I DON'T LIKE cleaning up other peoples mess, and I don't go out of my way to do it, but if it's in my way then it'll get removed. Everyone of us should stop moaning and remove them if they are in their way. Simple as that and doesn't take a second.....
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