I Got Chased By A Bullock

[posie]

Originally Posted by muldonach

The voltage in an electric fence is in the order of 20,000 volts, it has to be in order to give a thick skinned bovine sufficient of a shock to educate it.

Battery powered fences and PROW make a very poor combination - batteries tend to walk away. Mains powered fences are more durable but still liable to vandalism.

Cheers
mac

I do not think this is quite correct Mac, 20,000 volts As I have already said 12 volts works..Well it did for me with large cattle...
I was not talking about electrified metal fences, but electric fencing purposely designed for cattle...Posie..

[The Woodman]

I didn't want to take you up on that posie but I think that a fencing unit powered by a 12v battery converts to between 6000 and 20000 volts depending on several factors, number of electrodes, length, etc.. A system similar to that of a car with a 12v battery converting through a coil to produce enough volts to make healthy spark.

Fencing units can be powered by mains voltage, they also convert to much higher voltages without the amperage.

[posie]

Originally Posted by The Woodman

I didn't want to take you up on that posie but I think that a fencing unit powered by a 12v battery converts to between 6000 and 20000 volts depending on several factors, number of electrodes, length, etc.. A system similar to that of a car with a 12v battery converting through a coil to produce enough volts to make healthy spark.

Fencing units can be powered by mains voltage, they also convert to much higher voltages without the amperage.

Understood Woody..and Mac

So how do they overcome that in Switzerland ?

Gee wiz, I'm not doing too well today, that's twice I've had to say

I'll get my coat..

Posie

[posie]

Can't you decrease the voltage by increasing the ohms by using materials with more resistance?

I'm getting my coat on again ready..

Posie

[The Woodman]

The Swiss are renowned for being a peaceable law abiding race and have doey-eyed cattle! In other words, I don't know.

However, it would be interesting to know how they do it. If adopted here, I'm sure some representative group would find fault with it!

[The Woodman]

As you'll know, cattle are susceptible to current - for example failures in milking parlours and mass electrocution are rare - thank God. The deterent is in the high voltage, reducing that would lead to non-effect.

Wiki explains it thus.... Electric fence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Johnny Redgate]

Many footpaths cross the middle of fields and some fields have several paths through them. Electric fencing down either side of each path would be ridiculous. WIll the RA (bless them) be supporting diversion of paths to the edges of fields to facilitate fencing. They are known for opposing most diversion applications.

[posie]

I think I've got it now, woodman..it's got to be a high voltage PULSE or it wouldn't be effective..It was the pulse system that I had forgotten..

[posie]

Originally Posted by Johnny Redgate

Many footpaths cross the middle of fields and some fields have several paths through them. Electric fencing down either side of each path would be ridiculous. WIll the RA (bless them) be supporting diversion of paths to the edges of fields to facilitate fencing. They are known for opposing most diversion applications.

as you say, moving all paths to boundary fences, then having double boundaries would be better, but that brings us back to eeyore's point about 'tidying, cutting etc' of the path areas, which ATM is done by the cattle for FREE..

I can't remember whether the law says you have to fence your animals in, or whether neighbours have to fence them out..?...Posie

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Your Rights

See this link - very good indeed: Beware of bull signs in fields with public access

But specifically:

The matter of signage is particularly interesting and something that is commonly wrong in practice. It is sensible to display signs informing the public when a bull is in the field, however, the signage should be correct in that it should conform with British Standard 5378 or European equivalents.

A suitable sign would be triangular with a yellow background and a black band around the outside. A bull should be shown (black on yellow) on the sign with supplementary text (black on yellow) such as "Bull in Field". The sign should not say "Beware of the Bull" or "Bull - proceed with caution" as these suggest that the bull is aggressive, threatening or dangerous and as such should not be kept in the field in any case.

The signs should not be displayed or should be securely covered when there is no bull in the field.
Misleading signs which deter the public from using the public right of way are illegal and should never be used.

thats all well and good, but it all pertains to feilds with PRoW in, my point was that if a farmer puts his 'dangerous or aggressive' animals in a feild without a path he'll have to display a sign to meet his duty of care to trespassers