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20-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by malantone  How less harsh can you get? he was killing the thing, personnely I get a large pan of water to a good rolling boil and put the in. trouble is it blows the nippers off.
A fisherman friend of mine recomends put the crabs in lukewarm water then bring to the boil, now I call that harsh.
Tony A. | You know what i was saying...the way he killed it right between the eyes...there must be others ways of killin it off..mayb its just me ...getting soft in my old age.. 
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20-11-2007, 03:09 PM
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Look at this for a suggestion of how to kill a crab then Julie!  You'll have to scroll down to the Gamberoni e Granchio con aglio e peperoncino: King prawns and crab with garlic and chilli Recipe. Cookbook of the month | Food monthly | The Observer |
20-11-2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy | Your having a laugh arent you Stewy ...wrapping in clingfilm hitting with a rolling pin what ever next..It would be just my luck that i wouldnt hit it hard enough first time..then what...dont tell me they dont feel pain..Just out of interest have you killed a crab in this way before..if not would you be happy to do this ...it all seems a bit cave man to me..
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20-11-2007, 05:11 PM
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No, I have never killed a crab but if I was to I would NOT smack it with a rolling pin, I would put it in the freezer for 30 minutes or so and then straight into boiling water.
The bloke that suggests the smacking with a rolling pin is Jamie Olivers mate aint he? |
20-11-2007, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy No, I have never killed a crab but if I was to I would NOT smack it with a rolling pin, I would put it in the freezer for 30 minutes or so and then straight into boiling water.
The bloke that suggests the smacking with a rolling pin is Jamie Olivers mate aint he? | Putting it in a freezer..you came over as such a nice young lad...what have you got in your freezer at the moment...or shouldnt i ask..
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20-11-2007, 05:24 PM
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If you put the crab in the freezer Julie it "shuts" down the crabs system so it feels nowt, this is allegedly of course as I am not a crab and have never been in a freezer and then dunked into boiling water, I get the feeling that I would'nt like it.
How would you kill one? |
20-11-2007, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy If you put the crab in the freezer Julie it "shuts" down the crabs system so it feels nowt, this is allegedly of course as I am not a crab and have never been in a freezer and then dunked into boiling water, I get the feeling that I would'nt like it.
How would you kill one? | When your saying "shuts Down " you mean dead right..if so then im ok with that....  and thanx for the other recipes on that link ..
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20-11-2007, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by juliejam When your saying "shuts Down " you mean dead right..if so then im ok with that.... and thanx for the other recipes on that link ..
Julie | No, it does not kill them, it sort of puts them gently to sleep (dormant) I think. As far as I know this is the most humane method, wrapping it in a bag and smashing it with a rolling pin is just wrong aint it? |
20-11-2007, 06:37 PM
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"The RSPCA's guidelines for the humane cooking of crabs recommend that the crustaceans are placed in a freezer at a temperature of -18¢ªC for two hours. This should ensure that the crabs are rendered completely unconscious by the time they are plunged into boiling water." |
20-11-2007, 09:03 PM
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my father in law was a chef who was fish chef on the QE2 for years he reckoned that the crab/lobster meat quality was improved if they were chilled by freezer prior to boiling...So thats good enough reason for me,,,
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21-11-2007, 06:18 AM
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What's next, blindfold and a firing squad?
"...gently cover your crab's eyes, and while its taking a puff on its last cigarette place your pistol barrel against the shell, a quick succession of shots should end the crabs life..."
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21-11-2007, 10:03 AM
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personally, the screwdriver seems the quickest and most humane to me, the crab must feel the cold surely?
at least if its very quick and decisive its suffering will be over in poss less than half a second. not the nicest of chores tho.
i can help feeling that the freezer option is just a way to remove the slightly grim bit from the cook, i'd personally prefer the final moment to be as quick as poss. freezing to near death cant be fun for anything?
i dont mean this as any criticism, i'm just flapping my gums |
21-11-2007, 10:30 AM
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The local fish market near me never sells live crab.. so it looks like i wont have to contimplate on killing one..which im rather glad of..please dont get me wrong in thinkin Im a squeamish women..Im like alot of others that enjoy good food but not always happy with the killing process that take place before hand..
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21-11-2007, 04:38 PM
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I should eat more fish but going for a curry tonight and watching the footie. |
21-11-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy I should eat more fish but going for a curry tonight and watching the footie. | Try a Fish curry you might like it ....( Ive had curried Bass before)... dont forget to take a bacon sarnie with you for half time.. 
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21-11-2007, 04:56 PM
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I've never had a fish curry, this will be a take away tonight and I think if I were to go for a fish curry i'd want to be in a restaurant.
Might have a bacon sarnie for supper.................  |
21-11-2007, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy I've never had a fish curry, this will be a take away tonight and I think if I were to go for a fish curry i'd want to be in a restaurant.
Might have a bacon sarnie for supper................. | Dont eat too late in the evening Stewy got to watch that waistline.
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21-11-2007, 05:47 PM
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I'm lucky in that respect Julie, I can eat near enough what I want and never put on a pound, Beer and Cider on the other hand................................ |
21-11-2007, 05:48 PM
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Don't watch it for too long though Stewy... it's like watching paint dry
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21-11-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy I'm lucky in that respect Julie, I can eat near enough what I want and never put on a pound, Beer and Cider on the other hand................................ | I do have to watch my weight a little ...I always tend to like the naughty stuff...running between 9-12 miles aweek is hard enough without carrying extra pounds around..
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22-11-2007, 10:12 AM
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fish curries are great - easy to make yourself too. they take marinade really well.
i am lucky enough to live near the curry mile in Mcr, which has some fantastic restaurants but the fish curry i enjoyed most in my life (excluding my wife's) was in Bridport. it sounds rank to everyone i mention it too, but take it from me it was food of the Gods.... it was a sardine curry with chips...drooool.
i didnt fancy rice (i'd been sailing for a few days in January and was in the mood for plenty of fried carbs) and it was on the seafront - so i hoped the fish would be super fresh.
i appologised to the waiter for seeming like such a heathen, but my god it was good fuel |
22-11-2007, 01:23 PM
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Ive made a so called fish curry before...using plenty of onions garlic small of amount of chilli. turmeric and other spices...I never use curry powder..cook that for a while until all the onions are nice and soft..at this point it smells just great...then add some coconut milk and then finally add your flakes cooked fish of your choice .dress with finely chopped spring onion....with a cucumber and mint yoghurt on the side its very quick and simple..just how i like it..
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22-11-2007, 01:27 PM
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Ok Stewy ...you have the book already can you give us a clue what delights Hugh maybe cooking up for us tonight...
And have you tried out any of the recipes yet....
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22-11-2007, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by juliejam Ok Stewy ...you have the book already can you give us a clue what delights Hugh maybe cooking up for us tonight...
And have you tried out any of the recipes yet....
Julie | No, i've not read it yet.  I've had a little flick through but that's it.
"Hugh Fearnley_whittingstall teams up with the region's most progressive fishermen to investigate commercial developments in sustainable fishing." |
22-11-2007, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewy No, i've not read it yet. I've had a little flick through but that's it.
"Hugh Fearnley_whittingstall teams up with the region's most progressive fishermen to investigate commercial developments in sustainable fishing." | Well thats because your too busy making your bacon sarnie's ...I use to like fishfinger and daddies sauce sarnie's when i was a kid...that takes me back...
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