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22-10-2007, 09:37 AM
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thanks for that info - i'll read up on it (there's a bit of a spiel on the beeb site) and add it to the list of things to try to get a few snaps of, much appreciated.
doesnt sounds exactly the way it was first described to me, but much more realistic 
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22-10-2007, 04:13 PM
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Thing is I don't find it patronising, I think that's a very subjective viewpoint, yes its not teaching me much but I find it warming and comforting and a little romantic and my mum is learning lots and finally realising why my job is so complex so that makes me happy too |
23-10-2007, 01:33 PM
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Im still annoyed and puzzled why the Chris packham prog was not repeated on sunday night as normal?
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24-10-2007, 04:35 PM
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Just a quick heads up...NOB on bbc1 at 9pm and then Chris Packhams version at 10 on bbc4 ! ...Enjoy 
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24-10-2007, 09:01 PM
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where is the chris packham programme? |
24-10-2007, 09:02 PM
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dont woory found it, just didnt say it was on on my tv. |
24-10-2007, 09:38 PM
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Today i was going to got to Camley Street Natural Park, with it being 10mins from my uni and I had half day. But I wasnt feeling to well so I came home. So what I nice surprise it was to view it from the comfort of my bed |
24-10-2007, 10:02 PM
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What Did everyone think about tonights programmes 
As usual I thought they were very good but when I saw the Badgers I couldnt help but think they may be culled by Christmas.  |
24-10-2007, 10:12 PM
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Enjoyed tonights programme. Was nice to see footage of Otters in newcastle city centre and a good segment on White Clawed Crayfish just up the road from me
Couldnt help but think of the proposed cull when watching the Badger footage 
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24-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mh68  Enjoyed tonights programme. Was nice to see footage of Otters in newcastle city centre and a good segment on White Clawed Crayfish just up the road from me
Couldnt help but think of the proposed cull when watching the Badger footage
Mark H | Actually Mark I had a chuckle to myself, visualizing a little old lady in Brighton smacking some wise-guy from DEFRA with her broom for coming into her garden and trying to mess with her Badgers! 
Autumn Watch Next - I've just been on the site and it starts on November 5th, Yay!
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24-10-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaina Actually Mark I had a chuckle to myself, visualizing a little old lady in Brighton smacking some wise-guy from DEFRA with her broom for coming into her garden and trying to mess with her Badgers! | Hahaha never thought of that
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25-10-2007, 12:01 AM
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I have got to be honest....I think the A.Titchmarsh programme is awful....How can the 'Nature of Britain' be about feral pigeons, half tame foxes and Badgers and Ring-neck Parakeets? Not to mention the pheasants last week, the Red Deer and the squirrel! And then finally we got one tiny section of Crayfish which are native! I understand that someone will say that it was only this episode and it will be better next week but there have been 3 awful weeks so far!
The Packham version is so so so much better and it talks about nature not released pets/feral animals! Sorry to vent my disappriciation on here but it definately is NOT the 'Nature of Britain' but the released animals of Britian. |
25-10-2007, 06:26 AM
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I thought it was pretty decent myself! I can't see what all the Pro Packham anti Titchmarsh vibe is all about. Theres far worse programmes on the Box than this!!!
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25-10-2007, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mh68 a good segment on White Clawed Crayfish just up the road from me
Mark H | When was that. I watch all the programme and saw nothing on that. Was it the additional last 10mins? It was about a LWT reserve near my uni here. Perhaps its different around the country |
25-10-2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jez I thought it was pretty decent myself! I can't see what all the Pro Packham anti Titchmarsh vibe is all about. Theres far worse programmes on the Box than this!!! | I agree Jez. Packam and Titmarsh are 'only the presenters'. They can only follow the scripts they are given and visit the sites that have been decided by the producer/director of the repective programs.
Both in my opinion are good at what they do. Just let's enjoy both programs and be grateful that we are getting the opportunity to watch 'wildlife' on TV.
Remember there is always a choice to whether you watch it or not.
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25-10-2007, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ukwildlifeo When was that. I watch all the programme and saw nothing on that. Was it the additional last 10mins? It was about a LWT reserve near my uni here. Perhaps its different around the country | Must have been the local segment ukwildlifeo.
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25-10-2007, 07:50 AM
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I must admit to enjoying both programmes, 2 hours of natural history, we are being spoilt, good bad or indifferent these programmes are far superior to the general run of TV I see, and Urban Britain I really enjoyed because my home town Derby featured, with Markeaton Brooks white clawed crayfish, the reserve at Pride Park,made from a rubbish tip but the best was our Cathedral Peregrins. Ive watched these this year upclose through my binoculars whilst sitting comfortably on Cathedral Green and then at home via the web cams installed on the nest platform, The chicks didnt mind feral pigeons being mentioned, they think their great . The more natural history programmes I see the happier I am,if they are good then I applaud if not then I can moan, but its all natural history and thats what we want. regards Jon |
25-10-2007, 08:24 AM
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Much better last night I thought. The only silly, patronising bit that started my hackles rising was the "Are You Being Served" routine in the lift. Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel I have got to be honest....I think the A.Titchmarsh programme is awful....How can the 'Nature of Britain' be about feral pigeons, half tame foxes and Badgers and Ring-neck Parakeets? Not to mention the pheasants last week, the Red Deer and the squirrel! And then finally we got one tiny section of Crayfish which are native! I understand that someone will say that it was only this episode and it will be better next week but there have been 3 awful weeks so far!
The Packham version is so so so much better and it talks about nature not released pets/feral animals! Sorry to vent my disappriciation on here but it definately is NOT the 'Nature of Britain' but the released animals of Britian. | A little harsh I feel! Sure the grey squirrel and the ring-necked parakeet are introduced species but Badgers, foxes and rock doves are natives and the way they have colonised our cities and become less wary of us is very interesting. Plus what about the peregrines, gulls, kittiwakes, Otters and Red Squirrels that were all featured? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ukwildlifeo When was that. I watch all the programme and saw nothing on that. Was it the additional last 10mins? It was about a LWT reserve near my uni here. Perhaps its different around the country | It was also shown on the user's guide on BBC 4.
Dave P.
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25-10-2007, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel I have got to be honest....I think the A.Titchmarsh programme is awful....How can the 'Nature of Britain' be about feral pigeons, half tame foxes and Badgers and Ring-neck Parakeets? Not to mention the pheasants last week, the Red Deer and the squirrel! And then finally we got one tiny section of Crayfish which are native! I understand that someone will say that it was only this episode and it will be better next week but there have been 3 awful weeks so far! | I think the programme is good. To me programs that encourage people who normally wouldnt give a stuff about the natural world are whats needed , and I think that this has a chance of interesting a few people that would not ordinarily be interested. A big issue we face is that many city kids and adults have lost touch entirely with the nature in this country and a documentary on white clawed crayfish probably isnt going to interest them. What stands a chance is something that they can relate to. If that means urban foxes and grey squirrels well so be it. lets be honest here a large part of our Island is now urbanised and this wildlife is just as worthy as animals in the wilds.
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25-10-2007, 08:58 AM
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Putting aside any personal preferences for presenters, the problem I have with the program is that it gives the impression everythings great and hunky-dory, when the opposite is true. I know there is an argument to be made for not depressing people, and making people care about stuff first, but if people aren't watching the Packham program after they aren't getting any 'call to arms'. Plus some of the statements made are bit dubious.
It down-played the grey squirrel issue, totally ignored the fact that the ring-necked parakeets are out-competing native birds and actively bully them out of their nest holes, and gave the impression that all the species flocking into our cities (eg the seagulls) will live alongside what's there, when in fact they'll displace what's there. The (native) wildlife in our cities is being lost at an alarming rate (mostly owing to development). It's also ironic that the farming program coincided with the reduction in set-aside!
It gives a false, 'tourist board' view of the state of the nature of Britain.
Sorry if that sounds pessimistic, but I work in conservation, and it comes with the job!
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25-10-2007, 09:38 AM
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Greg I think you are correct though. I do understand the need for inner city people, in particular children to be able to relate to the 'nature of Britian' but is it a good thing for people to entice Badgers and foxes away from their natural scavenging? We all have our own opinions. I myself have run children from schools I have worked with into the countryside to let them experience it first hand. I feel this is much better approach than to urbanize more wildlife.
Just on another tangent, I have no problem with who presents the programmes at all Packham and Titchmarsh are both great. That is not what I am getting at, its the ideal that the programme is trying to portray that is what is wrong in my opinion. |
25-10-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel I have got to be honest....I think the A.Titchmarsh programme is awful....How can the 'Nature of Britain' be about feral pigeons, half tame foxes and Badgers and Ring-neck Parakeets? Not to mention the pheasants last week, the Red Deer and the squirrel! And then finally we got one tiny section of Crayfish which are native! I understand that someone will say that it was only this episode and it will be better next week but there have been 3 awful weeks so far!
The Packham version is so so so much better and it talks about nature not released pets/feral animals! Sorry to vent my disappriciation on here but it definately is NOT the 'Nature of Britain' but the released animals of Britian. | Each to their own, but I enjoyed last night's programme. It was about urban wildlife + Feral Pigeons must be the ultimate urban bird + I'm sure many people were unaware of their origins. A large part of a city's- certainly London whose wildlife I know very well- is made out of feral/naturalised species + has been for a long time. I think it would be wrong to ignore them as they are a part of urban ecology. |
25-10-2007, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel I have got to be honest....I think the A.Titchmarsh programme is awful....How can the 'Nature of Britain' be about feral pigeons, half tame foxes and Badgers and Ring-neck Parakeets? Not to mention the pheasants last week, the Red Deer and the squirrel! And then finally we got one tiny section of Crayfish which are native! I understand that someone will say that it was only this episode and it will be better next week but there have been 3 awful weeks so far!
The Packham version is so so so much better and it talks about nature not released pets/feral animals! Sorry to vent my disappriciation on here but it definately is NOT the 'Nature of Britain' but the released animals of Britian. | I think theyre trying to show species which anyone can go and see.Whether theyre native or not theyre out there so I cant see the harm on covering these aswell as our native species.
The Packham programme last night mentioned Terrapins by the way so its not just restricted to the "main" programme
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01-11-2007, 12:44 PM
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Apologise if this is old news. I've just discovered on the BBC nature of Britain web site that you can watch a lot of the local area clips. This is the link, BBC - Nature UK - Map for nature of britain, geolocatable and dummy
just zoom in and click on the item you want. Interesting to see what others have been watching.
I must plug Chimeny Meadows in Oxfordshire, shown last night.
BWD
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