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17-10-2007, 11:48 PM
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I really enjoyed both shows tonight although the user Guide with Packham was still the better...Yes they did repeat the section ( ten mins out of a whole hour) based at ranscombe farm in kent...but im quite happy as its just down the road !..i guess a few bits will appear in both shows as they probably realise some people will only catch one of the two shows each week...but overall ...well impressed and managed to record them to my new HDD recorder !
I have learnt something from each program so far...like i had no idea of the seeding of land/hedgerows/verges etc with corn for the pheasants to feed on..ok so hundreds of you probably know this but i didnt until now. 
EDIT:...actually Jamie i just thought of something...it will only be for US..me and you and others in KENT that will say" Hey...the bit about ranscombe farm was in the titmarsh show as well" because it appeared in the 15 minute "In your area" section at the end ( which is regional so every viewer will see stuff about their area...hence ranscombe being local to us)...which is why these crossovers will happen as the rest of the country will NOT have seen the footage at ranscombe in the titmarsh show...you get me?
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17-10-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Woodman  Some good footage despite some of it being aired in previous documentaries. | Some outstanding footage - those BBC cameramen really know what they're about. If only we could shoot the producers!
I'm not looking to pick holes, honestly I'm not, but the patronise-ometer climbed the scale this week and peaked at about 8...
The James Bond theme? If there's one thing in this world guaranteed to make me run screaming from a room it's a James Bond film. And I can understand the concept of something being high tech without a musical underlining, thank-you!
In two episodes we've now had three different things described as "the most dramatic wildlife spectacle in Britain". "The most" is a superlative. There can, by definition, only be one. With six episodes still to air how many more will there be?
As a television viewer I'm several hundred miles away and at least six months in Alan Titchmarsh's future, so hopping in his landrover is a physical and temporal impossibility. Okay, I know I'm being overly literal but I find this kind of thing intensely irritating and totally unnecessary.
I'll give it one more week but if the patronise-ometer doesn't drop back to around the 4-5 mark I shall watch the rest with the sound off.
Sorry for the rant, but I feel better for getting it off my chest! 
Dave P.
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17-10-2007, 11:58 PM
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I missed the later show last week, managed to get to watch them both tonight. Enjoyed them both, but I also preferred the later one. Hardwick Hall is one place I've been meaning to get to, I'll try and time my visit hoping to see the Lapwings. |
18-10-2007, 12:03 AM
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Yeah i know what you mean Dan so only people in the South East or Kent which ever it was would have seen that bit. And Dan do you volunteer with the KWT because I want to do it and just want to no what it is like and where you go and what you do . |
18-10-2007, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jamie_from-kent Yeah i know what you mean Dan so only people in the South East or Kent which ever it was would have seen that bit. And Dan do you volunteer with the KWT because I want to do it and just want to no what it is like and where you go and what you do . | I 100% recommend it jamie...and you can literally follow in my footsteps ( im doing a degree in it now) as i lived and started my volunteering at the excellent SSI Darland Banks reserve that is on your doorstep.
Thursdays....just have a wander up there and meet the very friendly and mixed age group ( young and old)..they normally meet at the small parking area that dissects the west bank from the main bank...or just have a wander until you spot the crowd...
Form those beginnings i then started volunteering Tuesday, wed and thur...
Tuesdays is at the Queen Down Warren SSI reserve...then wednesdays you meet at Tyland Barn headquarters in maidstone and they take you to any reserve that needs the help that day ( great way to get to see all the reserves in kent)..and of course thursday at Darland.
I havent been out much recently mainly becuase my degree takes up all my time and secondly i have got an arm injury ( tennis elbow) which im still trying to get repaired/treated so i can go hacking away at vegetation once again.
Take the plunge...you wont regret it...although if you start now be prepared for lots of coled, wet muddy...but fun volunteer tasks until the "nice" stuff happens again next spring and summer.
And i expect i shall meet you along the way sometime soon
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18-10-2007, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pressld2 Some outstanding footage - those BBC cameramen really know what they're about. If only we could shoot the producers!
I'm not looking to pick holes, honestly I'm not, but the patronise-ometer climbed the scale this week and peaked at about 8...
The James Bond theme? If there's one thing in this world guaranteed to make me run screaming from a room it's a James Bond film. And I can understand the concept of something being high tech without a musical underlining, thank-you!
In two episodes we've now had three different things described as "the most dramatic wildlife spectacle in Britain". "The most" is a superlative. There can, by definition, only be one. With six episodes still to air how many more will there be?
As a television viewer I'm several hundred miles away and at least six months in Alan Titchmarsh's future, so hopping in his landrover is a physical and temporal impossibility. Okay, I know I'm being overly literal but I find this kind of thing intensely irritating and totally unnecessary.
I'll give it one more week but if the patronise-ometer doesn't drop back to around the 4-5 mark I shall watch the rest with the sound off.
Sorry for the rant, but I feel better for getting it off my chest!
Dave P. | Take my advice Dave which i have repeated so much now im getting sick of it myself...watch the SECOND show at ten with Chris Packham....a whole better kettle of fish if you cant take too much more titmarsh.
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18-10-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Woodman Mushy, sentimental, clap trap. Some good footage despite some of it being aired in previous documentaries. Comparable to a coffee table book. Did A. Tit. mention why those starlings put up a good performance - no- despite the raptor clearly mustering them into a bird bait ball. Farmer with a tie, new trousers, new wooden hide looking beautiful ?
Enjoy | Maybe a touch over the top, but basically right. Didn't realise there was a CP thing on afterwards - may try and get a repeat showing.
My problem with it is, is that it caters for the masses without really telling us a great deal. And there's too much camera (albeit beautiful camera work) without explanation. The CP 30min thing on at teatime on Beeb2 was far better, but that appears to have finished  Loved watching that wiv me tea! |
18-10-2007, 02:30 PM
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That was Natures Calender and it has finished and the other CP one that is on staraight after is repeated on Sundays evenings on bbc4. |
18-10-2007, 02:40 PM
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The Nature of Britain a Users Guide should have ousted Mr T.for the early slot
Who was the Blonde Freckly girl looking at Corn Cockle?
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18-10-2007, 02:42 PM
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The Idea of this programme and this website is to celebrate the wonderful and stunning wildlife that the British Isles has to offer.I coudn`t give a toss which is the best or most irritating presenter as I am too busy enjoying the spectacular photographs.Perhaps all the EXPERTS? on this thread should make their own documentry.Just chill out and enjoy.
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18-10-2007, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by geordie graham The Idea of this programme and this website is to celebrate the wonderful and stunning wildlife that the British Isles has to offer.I coudn`t give a toss which is the best or most irritating presenter as I am too busy enjoying the spectacular photographs.Perhaps all the EXPERTS? on this thread should make their own documentry.Just chill out and enjoy.
Graham | I agree . The series is meant to be a celebration of Britain's wildlife with mass-audience appeal. If it were a more specialist programme, aimed only at those with a detailed knowledge of wildlife, it would be on BBC2 or BBC4 late at night and get 10% of the viewers. I like the idea of many millions of people being enthused about the UK's wildlife.
Also, the BBC have put together a whole package. There's the main programme, the local bits, the Chris Packham programme and the website, to cater for those who want more info or more detail.
I think it's been excellent so far. I've enjoyed both Titchmarsh's and Packham's programmes.
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18-10-2007, 03:06 PM
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Must admit to feeling very uplifted by all our beautiful countryside and it's wildlife. No complaints from me.
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18-10-2007, 03:22 PM
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18-10-2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_xyz I agree . The series is meant to be a celebration of Britain's wildlife with mass-audience appeal. If it were a more specialist programme, aimed only at those with a detailed knowledge of wildlife, it would be on BBC2 or BBC4 late at night and get 10% of the viewers. I like the idea of many millions of people being enthused about the UK's wildlife.
Also, the BBC have put together a whole package. There's the main programme, the local bits, the Chris Packham programme and the website, to cater for those who want more info or more detail.
I think it's been excellent so far. I've enjoyed both Titchmarsh's and Packham's programmes.
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18-10-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by geordie graham The Idea of this programme and this website is to celebrate the wonderful and stunning wildlife that the British Isles has to offer.I coudn`t give a toss which is the best or most irritating presenter as I am too busy enjoying the spectacular photographs.Perhaps all the EXPERTS? on this thread should make their own documentry.Just chill out and enjoy.
Graham | Absolutely.
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18-10-2007, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_xyz The series is meant to be a celebration of Britain's wildlife with mass-audience appeal. | I agree. My point is that it's perfectly possible to meet that aim without patronising or dumbing down. Series like Life on Earth or The Blue Planet had HUGE audience appeal, probably bigger than NoB, but never once got silly or fluffy. Where did the idea come from that a serious approach to the subject means fewer viewers? It's never been true. Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_xyz If it were a more specialist programme, aimed only at those with a detailed knowledge of wildlife, it would be on BBC2 or BBC4 late at night and get 10% of the viewers. | But I'm not asking for more specialization nor for a change to the target audience, and as far as I can see neither are any of the other critics. All I want is for it to show a bit of respect for its audience. Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_xyz Also, the BBC have put together a whole package. There's the main programme, the local bits, the Chris Packham programme and the website, to cater for those who want more info or more detail. | Very true and they are to be congratulated for it! Most of it is excellent, particularly the User's Guide. And I'm not saying that the Titchmarsh programme is dreadful, only that it could be so much better without the fluff.
Dave P.
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18-10-2007, 09:06 PM
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Well, I just finished watching last night's episodes (the joy of Sky+!) and noticed one of our esteemed members representing the RSPB discussing some volunteer work at a farm near Preston. It was during the 'In your area' prog at the end of the main show on BBC NW. Congrats to Sarah (almostnormal) !!  |
18-10-2007, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GME Well, I just finished watching last night's episodes (the joy of Sky+!) and noticed one of our esteemed members representing the RSPB discussing some volunteer work at a farm near Preston. It was during the 'In your area' prog at the end of the main show on BBC NW. Congrats to Sarah (almostnormal) !! | Well obviously in kent we didnt get to see Sarah but congrats anyway. Im still hoping the regional slots will be included as some bundled "extras" on the dvd but i bet they wont...also hoping the chris packham progs are on the dvd?
The freckly girl on last night with the corncockle is very well known to us in tv in kent...caddly lee preston..weather girl , presenter...does all the outdoors/wildlife/country stuff on tv and appears occasionally on the bbc one show.
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19-10-2007, 12:58 AM
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Managed to catch the user's guide after work last night, enjoyed it thoroughly once again, hats off to Mr. Packham and team! Watched Nature of.. tonight on cable, lovely shots once again though sadly no regional section. I agree with some that it feels like you're being presented to as a child sometimes, and I'm not even close to being an expert, but what can you expect in a media world trying to be young and fresh all the time? 
Still, I won't take anything away, the show is wonderful. It's nice to see so much time and effort spent on a show solely about Britain's local/national wildlife (its basically a two hour show!).
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19-10-2007, 05:55 PM
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A few people have said that the presentation was a little childlike.Hopefully that may have an advantage and possibly encourage younger people to put down the video game controls and get outside and see the wonders that nature has to offer.Can only live in hope.
Graham
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19-10-2007, 09:27 PM
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I don't really take to Alan Titchmarsh's manner although he means well, and the background music is annoying. But its good to see programmes about British wildlife. This week in the regional part of the programme in Wales, Iolo Williams was much more interesting and informative. |
19-10-2007, 10:51 PM
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Managed to get hold of a copy of the calendar today. The central library had run out but I found one in a branch library. It's very well put together and definitely worth getting hold of a copy if you can.
Dave P.
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19-10-2007, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pressld2 Managed to get hold of a copy of the calendar today. The central library had run out but I found one in a branch library. It's very well put together and definitely worth getting hold of a copy if you can.
Dave P. | I agree...its full of useful info , special days and tips...not taking away anything from the WAB calender of course which i never got to see...but worth it for a freebie
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