2 trees for I.D.

[2dogs2000]

I am assuming these are trees and not shrubs. I have got into a bit of a muddle with my photos

Can someone i.d. them for me please?

[Adam Cheeseman]

First one is a Sorbus hybrid, possibly involving Whitebeam
Second one is a Apple variety.

Cheers,

Adam

[Hedera]

The second one looks like a crab-apple, the oval shape and wavy leaves. Very like my John Downie.

[treecreeper]

Crab apple has thick spines on it (absent from cultivated varieties). I think I can make out one or two on the photo

[aeshna5]

Agree 1 is a Sorbus sp + 2 Malus sp.

[davidbr]

No. 1 is Swedish Whitebeam, Sorbus intermedia

No. 2 is a Malus sp and, looking at it, I'd say it was most likely Common Apple (Malus domestica)

[2dogs2000]

Thank you everyone. (Didn't reply sooner as I have been on holiday).

[LilNick]

Thanks for this thread, I've been trying to identify #1 for the last hour or so, I recently lent my trees book to a neighbour who is away on hols.

I was hoping it was service/checker then recognised the leaves are wrong...



Looks the same to me, edible berries possibly?

[Monkey Orchid]

Originally Posted by LilNick

I was hoping it was service/checker then recognised the leaves are wrong...
Looks the same to me, edible berries possibly?

Well, you can make a rather tart jelly from Rowan berries, which is the same genus as Swedish Whitebeam (Sorbus). Allegedly Swedish Whitebeam berries are sweet-tasting, though I've never sampled them myself. Chequer berries from Wild Service trees are slightly softer as well as being sweet: I understand they're used in all kinds of foods including cakes, muesli , chocolate bars and alcoholic drinks. There's a recipe for cake at Ramblings of a Naturalist: Cake with wild service berries if you want to experiment with your Swedish Whitebeam berries! Maybe if you soak the berries overnight in fruit juice or rum it will make them a bit softer and nicer.

If it was me I'd leave the Whitebeam berries for the birds. Winter thrushes like Fieldfare and Redwing love them!

[LilNick]

Cheers Monkey Orchid,

The berries didn't look that special in the end I decided againsst using them for anything and stuck to the local blackerries instead ;-)

[thunder]

Went for a walk this evening, and a friend tried a Swedish Whitebeam berry - his first reaction was "Well, they are edible if you were really hungry". He ate a few more, so I tried one - not worth the effort in my opinion.

henrya