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15-07-2008, 08:51 PM
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| | | Another Lime Tree Avenue species After more than 3 weeks away from Clumber Park it was good to return for a stroll down Lime Tree Avenue.
The usual frustrating Inocybe species were there along with several Russula’s and Lactarius species.
My first thoughts about these were Panaeolus sp. But would appreciate comments.
Spores x400
Many thanks - John | 
16-07-2008, 08:45 AM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Quote:
Originally Posted by FungiJohn After more than 3 weeks away from Clumber Park it was good to return for a stroll down Lime Tree Avenue.
The usual frustrating Inocybe species were there along with several Russula’s and Lactarius species.
My first thoughts about these were Panaeolus sp. But would appreciate comments.
Spores x400
Many thanks - John |
Hope you had a good holiday John !
This is a species of Psathyrella - but unidentifiable since the specimens have started to dry out (hence the very pallid colour of the pilei) so it's impossible to see if it was striate or not (which helps with diagnosis) - the spores are correct for this genus however.
Nick | 
16-07-2008, 11:01 AM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Hope you had a good holiday John !
This is a species of Psathyrella - but unidentifiable since the specimens have started to dry out (hence the very pallid colour of the pilei) so it's impossible to see if it was striate or not (which helps with diagnosis) - the spores are correct for this genus however.
Nick  | Excellent holiday, thanks Nick 
Thanks too for the Psathyrella information.
John | 
16-07-2008, 11:54 AM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Welcome back into the fold, John. 
I hope you managed to get around those sand dunes, etc. whilst on holiday.
Nick
I'm puzzled
I think I am missing something in the ID process.
If dried out samples are sent for checking, how does one overcome the problem you outline above.
Sorry for being so thick.
Les
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16-07-2008, 02:26 PM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettle Runner Welcome back into the fold, John. 
I hope you managed to get around those sand dunes, etc. whilst on holiday.
Nick
I'm puzzled
I think I am missing something in the ID process.
If dried out samples are sent for checking, how does one overcome the problem you outline above.
Sorry for being so thick.
Les | Thanks Les. Not much in the sand dunes but loads of Chanterelles found in Devon 
I suspect Nick was referring to diagnosis in situ rather than after drying otherwise I'm puzzled too 
John | 
16-07-2008, 05:45 PM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettle Runner Welcome back into the fold, John. 
I hope you managed to get around those sand dunes, etc. whilst on holiday.
Nick
I'm puzzled
I think I am missing something in the ID process.
If dried out samples are sent for checking, how does one overcome the problem you outline above.
Sorry for being so thick.
Les |
Copious and detailed NOTES as to the macroscopic appearence and features of the FRESH material that may (usually are in fact !) be lost on drying Les !
Features such as striae on the cap, colour changes (if obvious) between the fresh and dry material, whether or not 'hygrophanous' i.e changing colour when the fresh material starts to dry in the field, colour changes when bruised or damaged, smell, taste, colour etc, which should always accompany the specimen if sent for diagnosis !
Tedious  , but necessary and the additions of these notes will make any specimens much more valuable to future workers !
Nick | 
16-07-2008, 07:02 PM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Copious and detailed NOTES as to the macroscopic appearence and features of the FRESH material that may (usually are in fact !) be lost on drying Les !
Features such as striae on the cap, colour changes (if obvious) between the fresh and dry material, whether or not 'hygrophanous' i.e changing colour when the fresh material starts to dry in the field, colour changes when bruised or damaged, smell, taste, colour etc, which should always accompany the specimen if sent for diagnosis !
Tedious  , but necessary and the additions of these notes will make any specimens much more valuable to future workers !
Nick  | Hi Nick
I can well understand taste being a useful indicator but could you give a little general guidance with respect to this … just in case
John | 
16-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species I personally nibble a small piece with my front teeth just to gauge the taste before spitting it out.
Cheers,
Adam | 
16-07-2008, 08:12 PM
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| | | Re: Another Lime Tree Avenue species Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Cheeseman I personally nibble a small piece with my front teeth just to gauge the taste before spitting it out.
Cheers,
Adam | Exactly !
Nothing more needs to said - just don't forget to spit it out afterwards. No harm can come from this proceedure !
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