Spelling Issues

[Seajay]

Originally Posted by Boddie

Does anybody really get offended by bad spelling any more? Some of the most intelligent people I know either dont spell or cant be bothered to. I see some atrocious spelling on here but it does not upset me. I have more important things to worry about.

Yes, correct spelling is important as is doing anything to the best of your ability. Why settle for poor standards? Why strive to produce higher quality images in that case.

[HowlinWolf]

I concur with Seajay on this one. It's all about presentation and how the rest of the world perceives you.
Sure, typos will always slip through, but I always check my posts in 'Preview Post' for grammatical and spelling errors before submitting.
Of course, for those of you that read The Guardian, it's probably all quite normal.

HW

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Seajay

Yes, correct spelling is important as is doing anything to the best of your ability. Why settle for poor standards? Why strive to produce higher quality images in that case.

to the best of your ability yes - but some people cant help the poor spelling - some are dyslexic, some are disabled , some maybe didnt have that good an education - some are occasionally drunk and some may be too busy to por over every word, particularly if they dedicate a large degree of their wab time to developing the site and helping other members.

IMO its all a matter of personal choice and taste , if it bothers you by all means spend half the night carefully crafting one post, use the spell checker or if you dont like the one provide use word and cut and paste your post in - however like boddie said some of us have better things to do and are quite happy to type it have a quick skim for obvious typos and hit submit.

[Boddie]

Originally Posted by HowlinWolf

I concur with Seajay on this one. It's all about presentation and how the rest of the world perceives you.
Sure, typos will always slip through, but I always check my posts in 'Preview Post' for grammatical and spelling errors before submitting.
Of course, for those of you that read The Guardian, it's probably all quite normal.

HW

I couldn't give a monkies for anybody who perceives me negatively for a few spelling mistakes. I am highly qualified and am employed within a specialist field, and making the odd typo should not allow someone to judge me any differently.

I am thankfull that people choose to contribute to the site and I think it pathetic that you perceive people for something so petty.

[smartie]

Originally Posted by glsammy

You spotted it then! I wondered who would!

Good recovery!!

[smartie]

Originally Posted by HowlinWolf

I concur with Seajay on this one. It's all about presentation and how the rest of the world perceives you.
Sure, typos will always slip through, but I always check my posts in 'Preview Post' for grammatical and spelling errors before submitting.
Of course, for those of you that read The Guardian, it's probably all quite normal.

HW

I can't agree with this. I am (or was 35 years ago) a graduate in English Language, and am therefore passionate about the use of the language on my own account, but I don't expect everyone else to share my obsession. Other people are good at things I'm not, and are knowledgeable about things I'm ignorant about, and I would hate anyone to feel inhibited about sharing their knowledge and ideas on a forum like this because they were worried about being "perceived" as somehow inadequate because of a misplaced comma or a spelling mistake. Why do we have to judge people on these surface criteria anyway?

[HowlinWolf]

When I have to wade through job applications, the first hurdle for prospective employees is their handwriting. All submissions have to have an accompanying letter written in long hand (printed C.V.'s not withstanding). Those that are illegible are straight in the bin. Then, spelling is considered. Anything with spelling errors is also consigned to the bin. This is how I wheedle out the (sometimes) heavy applications for the one available post.
Those that can't (or won't) be bothered to present themselves in their best possible light stand no chance of being shortlisted for an interview. Hard, but true.

HW

[smartie]

That's not quite how I used to weed out applications, but to each his own. Within the law you can choose your own criteria. But I certainly wouldn't apply the same principles to a forum that exists for the exchange of information and views, and I think that's the point those of us who have disagreed with you have been making.

[ron1863]

I don't know if everyone has a spell checker but when I type, any incorrectly spelled word are underlined in red dots. I then right click to get the correct spelling. The reason I asked was that the dictionary was trying to correct neighbour to neighbor.

Yes I do get annoyed by poor spelling, as we seem to be degenerating into a text language, which for me is harder to understand than plain English.

How do u r8 txts.

I have since loaded the English Dictionary

Thanks for all the replies

[nightshade]

Ooer,this is getting heavy for a mere query over a spelling checker

[Paul mabbott]

Originally Posted by brainfarmer

lol yes my spelling leaves a lot to be desired and i have a terrible tendency to use bits of internet chat speak and text abbreviations in my posts but as someone once said language is a tool not a master.

Sure, if you're a poet or singer then you can take all sorts of liberties with the language; if you'r among friends talking jargon or abbreviations can save time but
when trying to communicate publicly in an objective way then surely the words you use need to be precise and correct. It's easy enough to misunderstand people without incorrect spellings ...... so it's always worth running a spell-check, to pick out the tysop, at least

[Seajay]

Originally Posted by Seajay

Yes, correct spelling is important as is doing anything to the best of your ability. Why settle for poor standards? Why strive to produce higher quality images in that case.

I think people are moving away from the original post which was about spellcheckers. Comments are being made about remarks which have never been stated or even intended and words being 'placed in people's mouths'. Of course not everyone is of the same standard but does that mean therefore, we accept the lowest for ourselves? We do need to care and also care about those who are not so adept or well trained so in the case of spelling what is wrong with a spellchecker? It's a great tool, use it!
P.S. No person has been intentionally offended in the making of this post.

[nicola]

Far be it for me to jump on the band wagon.....but being one that does suffer with not very good spelling or grammer, its a bit dis-heartening to read some of the posts. I do tend to use word for the majority of postings so that I can do a spell and grammer check, as I have a habit of omitting words, adding random words that have no place in what I am saying and also putting letters in the wrong place. In fact at work, when I am making notes I tend to end up writing backwards, it is extremely frustrating I can tell you. Whilst its ok, when you have a checker, to write it down with pen and paper can be a complete minefield. I am very pleased that my current employement choose to actually do telephone interviews for the intial contact rather than hand written letter and cv. After all the covering letter is only asking for the job and can cv's really be trusted? Surely its about the person and what they can contribute to a position rather than what is written down.

I understand why people do feel strongly about the english language, spelling and grammer, but well some people cant help it. It would be a very boring place if we were all the same.

(I have checked as best as I can for spelling and grammer, sorry if there are still some errors)

[Seajay]

Originally Posted by nicola

Far be it for me to jump on the band wagon.....but being one that does suffer with not very good spelling or grammer, its a bit dis-heartening to read some of the posts. I do tend to use word for the majority of postings so that I can do a spell and grammer check, as I have a habit of omitting words, adding random words that have no place in what I am saying and also putting letters in the wrong place. In fact at work, when I am making notes I tend to end up writing backwards, it is extremely frustrating I can tell you. Whilst its ok, when you have a checker, to write it down with pen and paper can be a complete minefield. I am very pleased that my current employement choose to actually do telephone interviews for the intial contact rather than hand written letter and cv. After all the covering letter is only asking for the job and can cv's really be trusted? Surely its about the person and what they can contribute to a position rather than what is written down.

I understand why people do feel strongly about the english language, spelling and grammer, but well some people cant help it. It would be a very boring place if we were all the same.

(I have checked as best as I can for spelling and grammer, sorry if there are still some errors)

An excellent post Nicola and a very, valid point of view. All points noted and learned from.

[Stewy]

Originally Posted by ron1863

Why does the "Wild About Britain" use an English/American spell checker. I just noticed it the other day when I wrote neighbour and it was underlined red and advised me to spell it neighbor?

Still no answer to the original question

[brainfarmer]

the simple answer is its an amercan spell checker - like a lot of forums the template will be american based.

[nightshade]

Originally Posted by glsammy

To answer the original question, I imagine he's installed the ieSpell option. By default that uses a US dictionary. If you right mouse click when checking, go to options, and then to Language and Dictionaries, you can change it to the UK version, so no more neighbors!

Stewy it was answered

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Seajay

I think people are moving away from the original post which was about spellcheckers. Comments are being made about remarks which have never been stated or even intended and words being 'placed in people's mouths'. Of course not everyone is of the same standard but does that mean therefore, we accept the lowest for ourselves? We do need to care and also care about those who are not so adept or well trained so in the case of spelling what is wrong with a spellchecker? It's a great tool, use it!
P.S. No person has been intentionally offended in the making of this post.

seejay - no words are being placed in your mouth , I replied directly to your assertion. I am not offended that you disagree with me nor that you hold a different opinion, and i wholeheartedly support your right to do so.

However not everybody agrees with you or wishes to use a spellchecker - this being a free country we do not have to do so, and all that I ask is that you respect our right to hold differing opinions and views as i respect yours.

lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[Paul mabbott]

I should have added to my note (and we have been through this discussion many times before) that, yes, I prefer things to be spelled correctly but I do recognise that some people have definite problems and I do my best to interpret their spellings.
What I don't waste my time on is people who use e-mail abbreviations (when I don't understand them, and I imagine that possibly most people don't?) or telephone text shortenings. I find it easier to type full words than work out how to shorten them and I don't have the time to waste interpreting what is effectively a new language! If I want to do that, I'll take up Chinese!
So, even my nearest and dearest, if they send a message starting "c u @ wrs .. " get the simple reply "????????"

Originally Posted by nicola

Far be it for me to jump on the band wagon.....but being one that does suffer with not very good spelling or grammer, its a bit dis-heartening to read some of the posts. I do tend to use word for the majority of postings so that I can do a spell and grammer check, as I have a habit of omitting words, adding random words that have no place in what I am saying and also putting letters in the wrong place. In fact at work, when I am making notes I tend to end up writing backwards, it is extremely frustrating I can tell you. Whilst its ok, when you have a checker, to write it down with pen and paper can be a complete minefield. I am very pleased that my current employement choose to actually do telephone interviews for the intial contact rather than hand written letter and cv. After all the covering letter is only asking for the job and can cv's really be trusted? Surely its about the person and what they can contribute to a position rather than what is written down.

I understand why people do feel strongly about the english language, spelling and grammer, but well some people cant help it. It would be a very boring place if we were all the same.

(I have checked as best as I can for spelling and grammer, sorry if there are still some errors)

[Paul mabbott]

I certainly wouldn't bother with a grammar checker ....

Originally Posted by nicola

(I have checked as best as I can for spelling and grammer, sorry if there are still some errors)

[nicola]

Originally Posted by Paul mabbott

I certainly wouldn't bother with a grammar checker ....

Damn it and I thought I had done so well too

Text talk does have its uses though, its to the point and short. I find sometimes that when lots of words are used to to talk about a subject that I tend to switch off, in my opinion words can be wasted. Guess there are points for both ways. I do think though that it isnt always how you express yourself in as much the way that you use correct grammar (thanks for that) or spelling, but what you say...

[Paul mabbott]

Probably people minimise their word count in messages - both forum and e-mail - so you miss out on some of the niceties of expression (Henry James would never have coped with it) but, basically, you get clear and concise statements, or questions, ... whatever.
Yes, there are many advantages to using txttlk and abbreviations as long as
the recipient understands it. The same might be said about using French, Bengali or hex ....
As mentioned, I switch off when words are abbreviated beyond my understanding!
So, perhaps the answer is, 'Know to whom you're writing!'
Cheers, Paul
But allow that we all make mistakes ... even Nightshade and I

Originally Posted by nicola

Damn it and I thought I had done so well too

Text talk does have its uses though, its to the point and short. I find sometimes that when lots of words are used to to talk about a subject that I tend to switch off, in my opinion words can be wasted. Guess there are points for both ways. I do think though that it isnt always how you express yourself in as much the way that you use correct grammar (thanks for that) or spelling, but what you say...

[glsammy]

Originally Posted by eeyore

seejay - no words are being placed in your mouth , I replied directly to your assertion. I am not offended that you disagree with me nor that you hold a different opinion, and i wholeheartedly support your right to do so.

However not everybody agrees with you or wishes to use a spellchecker - this being a free country we do not have to do so, and all that I ask is that you respect our right to hold differing opinions and views as i respect yours.

lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Yes, and spell checkers are useless for the likes of losing or loosing...

[Stewy]

Originally Posted by nightshade

Stewy it was answered

Sorry