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12-03-2007, 05:58 PM
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The suggestions for this have either been pop songs of which I've never heard or things that I don't quite understand. I quite like Blake's 'Jerusalem' but this still has religious implications (and might even be found objectionable in "Israel"  ).
The only thing thing that might suit me is ' Iamgine by John Lennon - could be quite rousing at appropriate times?
Or should someone be employed to write an absoloutely new song? Look what happened in Australia .... 
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12-03-2007, 06:05 PM
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Ben by Michael Jackson |
12-03-2007, 06:13 PM
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I always thought Rule Brittania was a far better, cheerful and more uplifting song for national anthem than the droaning....monotonous god save the queen? |
12-03-2007, 06:14 PM
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Kim by Enimem - That way everybody will find it objectionable and quickly revert to the old one 
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12-03-2007, 06:41 PM
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What I meant to ask was, is there something that relates to the country, the land, itself and what things should be mentioned? Oaks? &c Anyone want to prepare a poem/song? And yes, that was ' Imagine - typing hand gone - off to recuperate ....
PS: the Australian example was not a joke - although many people saw it as such. 'Waltzing Matilda' was an interesting, entertaining, singable song and evryone like it. But it was far from the conventional view of an anthem so "they" (whoever they may be ...) wanted to turn it into something more dignified, staid &c ... and ended up with something boring that no one (even Australians) knew .... Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul mabbott  The suggestions for this have either been pop songs of which I've never heard or things that I don't quite understand. I quite like Blake's 'Jerusalem' but this still has religious implications (and might even be found objectionable in "Israel" ).
The only thing thing that might suit me is ' Iamgine by John Lennon - could be quite rousing at appropriate times?
Or should someone be employed to write an absoloutely new song? Look what happened in Australia .... |
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12-03-2007, 06:53 PM
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Ben, the two of us need look no more
We both found what we were looking for
With a home to call my own
I'll never be alone
And you, my friend, will see
That you can't beat a Yorkshire Tea,
(You can't beat a Yortkshire Tea)
Ben, you're always running here and there
You feel you're not wanted anywhere
If you ever look behind
And don't like what you find
There's one thing you should know
That Silverstone is not far from Stowe
(Silverstone's not far from Stowe)
I used to say "I" and "me"
Now it's "us", now it's "we"
I used to say "I" and "me"
Now it's "us", now it's "we"
Ben, most people would turn you away
I don't listen to a word they say
They don't see you as I do
I wish they would try to
I'm sure they'd think again
If they had a friend who lived near junction 10
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12-03-2007, 07:05 PM
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Barwick Green aka The Archers theme tune.
Rum ti tum, ti tum, ti tum. Rum ti tum, ti tum tum.....
What else could it be?
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12-03-2007, 07:15 PM
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Agreed, everyone would know the tune - like the idea. What would be the words? Or do we all make them up as we go along? Might not be bad idea - can't be any worse than the words I've heard with the old anthem!  Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackdog Barwick Green aka The Archers theme tune.
Rum ti tum, ti tum, ti tum. Rum ti tum, ti tum tum.....
What else could it be? |
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12-03-2007, 07:28 PM
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I think Jerusalem' should be our National Anthem.. but if you want a country linked one how about
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12-03-2007, 07:49 PM
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Does anyone remember the World Service music.. that would be recognised anywhere and everywhere.
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12-03-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackdog Barwick Green aka The Archers theme tune.
Rum ti tum, ti tum, ti tum. Rum ti tum, ti tum tum..... | Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul mabbott What would be the words? Or do we all make them up as we go along? | The words should be just as Blackdog has written them. That would be brilliant.
It's 2010, England's first World Cup Final appearance since '66. Two minutes before kick-off, the players line up, the crowd fall silent......drumroll....
"Rum ti tum, ti tum, ti tum. Rum ti tum, ti tum tum" |
12-03-2007, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kymba I think Jerusalem' should be our National Anthem.. but if you want a country linked one how about
"Where be That Black Bird Be" by the Wurzels | Or, being ridiculous .... do the combine harvester one. Oooh ah, ooh ah. Yes, all these ideas seem to be working towards those singers who aren't very good with word, don;t they?
I suppose that, over several decades (having said this, I don't remember hearing it for ten years! ) the 'na, na, naa na; na, na, naaa; say goodbye ...' song was one of the most popular chants. Particularly appropriate at British international games .....
That one has the advantage not only of having very few words but also having little in the way of tune. |
12-03-2007, 08:58 PM
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"You'll never walk alone" , instantly recognisable world-wide, and if you ever doubted just how stirring it is, you should try being in the "Kop" at Anfield during a Liverpool home game - absolutely awesome |
12-03-2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lords and Ladies The words should be just as Blackdog has written them. That would be brilliant.
It's 2010, England's first World Cup Final appearance since '66. Two minutes before kick-off, the players line up, the crowd fall silent......drumroll....
"Rum ti tum, ti tum, ti tum. Rum ti tum, ti tum tum" | I must come clean here. The original idea came from Billy Connolly, but it's so good I had to share it.
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12-03-2007, 09:02 PM
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men of harlech - tho perhaps not quite right for todays pc climate
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12-03-2007, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore men of harlech - tho perhaps not quite right for todays pc climate | What, with blokes in scarlet tunics and white pith helmets....
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12-03-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackdog I must come clean here. The original idea came from Billy Connolly, but it's so good I had to share it. | Bill Bailey would probably suggest the Coronation Street theme - effete southerners might go for the Eastenders
theme [although, personally, I think that was stolen from an earlier pop song - can't remember by whom ..... }]
Yes, I'd go for the Kop song; although I've never been to Anfield I've been in the visitors end plenty of times when Liverpool were playing. Thankfully not at Hillsborough that time ... But would supporters of other clubs reject it offhand?
Yes, there are so many good alternatives aren't there?
But put it to a committee and a vote and we'd probably end up with something by Cliff Richard 
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12-03-2007, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore men of harlech - tho perhaps not quite right for todays pc climate | Nothing to do with 'pc' but you obviously couldn't have a Welsh
song, anymore than a Scots one! Anyone remember 'We're on oor way with Ally's Army .... ' hee, hee .... |
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott Nothing to do with 'pc' but you obviously couldn't have a Welsh
song, anymore than a Scots one! Anyone remember 'We're on oor way with Ally's Army .... ' hee, hee .... | why is an english song anymore acceptable for a british national anthem
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12-03-2007, 09:42 PM
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Quite so, it must be 'British' rather than anglo-scot-welsh - I was only joking about Ally's Army! Someone mentioned the World Service programme music which, as I remember, was a composite of four folk tunes - Danny Boy being the only one I recall ... but could anyone sing along to it? Or even 'na na naa'? Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fourwings "You'll never walk alone" , instantly recognisable world-wide, and if you ever doubted just how stirring it is, you should try being in the "Kop" at Anfield during a Liverpool home game - absolutely awesome | Unfortunately to sing this don't you need to have black curly hair and a moustache  Quote:
Originally Posted by eeyore why is an english song anymore acceptable for a british national anthem | I think this should really be about an english anthem as both the Scots and the Welsh already have their own which are often played at Rugby games and I do consider that England should have one of their own rather than just God save the Queen.
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12-03-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore why is an english song anymore acceptable for a british national anthem | Which 'English' song - as I recall You'll Never Walk Alone was by Rogers and Hammerstein, therefore USAmerican ..... perhaps not a good move 
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12-03-2007, 09:53 PM
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Well, I have the moustache - shame about the curly hair .... We could get really parochial and go for Ilkley Moor baht 'at Nice tune and goes on and on .... and on ........ and on .... Also gets back to my natural history topic - describes the nitrogen cycle Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke of York Unfortunately to sing this don't you need to have black curly hair and a moustache
I think this should really be about an english anthem as both the Scots and the Welsh already have their own which are often played at Rugby games and I do consider that England should have one of their own rather than just God save the Queen.
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