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Old 06-03-2007, 06:31 AM
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I can hardly bear to read this story from the BBC...

BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Dog's dinners prove popular in Nigeria
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:48 AM
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Dog is protein same as Rabbit, Pig ,Swan it is just our civilised perception of food
sources.Pets to us food to others
Not being a dog lover particularly and having trodden in the barkers eggs ignored
by doting owners I do sometimes wish someone would eat the beggars
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:59 AM
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Dog is protein same as Rabbit, Pig ,Swan it is just our civilised perception of food
sources.Pets to us food to others
Not being a dog lover particularly and having trodden in the barkers eggs ignored
by doting owners I do sometimes wish someone would eat the beggars
I guess you're right, I am a total softy when it comes to dogs, particularly my two.

Barkers Eggs! Brilliant turn of phrase. Just a shame about inconsiderate owners though...
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Re: Dogs dinner???

I read this too and, although I love dogs, I refuse to be squeamish about another culture choosing to see it as a food source....

I might even try some if I was there [ducks to avoid flying virtual missiles thrown at my head].

Personally I'm partial to a bit of horse when I go to France but my horse owning friends consider me to be positively barbarian as a result.

The concern about this story is people's pets being stolen for the purpose as dogs become less common on the streets of Nigeria. However, in the UK, I once lost a cat which the police believe was taken for dog fights which were under investigation in the area at the time.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Dogs dinner???

Did anybody see the programme 'Kill it, Cook it, Eat it' last night. It showed abbatoir graphic slaughter of cattle, meat prep and then cooking steak and audience ate it.
I thought it would send them all vegie but it did not. Most thought the whole thing was very professional dispatch etc. there is another tonight on ITV 3 about lambs.
Still quite unpleasant to watch though
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:45 AM
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I read this too and, although I love dogs, I refuse to be squeamish about another culture choosing to see it as a food source....

I might even try some if I was there [ducks to avoid flying virtual missiles thrown at my head].

Personally I'm partial to a bit of horse when I go to France but my horse owning friends consider me to be positively barbarian as a result.

The concern about this story is people's pets being stolen for the purpose as dogs become less common on the streets of Nigeria. However, in the UK, I once lost a cat which the police believe was taken for dog fights which were under investigation in the area at the time.
Nice of the police to tell you that. It must have been very upsetting for you
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:09 AM
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Did anybody see the programme 'Kill it, Cook it, Eat it' last night. It showed abbatoir graphic slaughter of cattle, meat prep and then cooking steak and audience ate it.
I thought it would send them all vegie but it did not. Most thought the whole thing was very professional dispatch etc. there is another tonight on ITV 3 about lambs.
Still quite unpleasant to watch though
Oddly enough, I don't have a problem with anything like that. I can, and have despatched Rabbits and Chickens for the table, plucking/skinning and cleaning them before cooking them. It's just the British thing in me I 'spose; dogs are usually pets and part of the family. (yes, I know not everyone feels the same way)
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I have mixed feelings about this. As a dog owner and lover I find it an awful thought and couldnt bring myself to eat it.
But at the same time I dont live in Africa where in a lot of places there is a massive food shortage and people are starving. I believe if you were that Hungry you would probably eat anything. (thank goodness i live here )
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Isnt one of the Vietnams investigating those giant german Rabbits as a food supply. Quickly grown protien is reqired. Unfortunatly we regard the dog and the cat and often the Rabbit as pet not food and find such as the above item to much. Actualy, knowing what it might say I havnt read it and reading the comments of others who have, I am glad i didnt. I am a gert big softie.
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Isnt one of the Vietnams investigating those giant german Rabbits as a food supply. Quickly grown protien is reqired. Unfortunatly we regard the dog and the cat and often the Rabbit as pet not food and find such as the above item to much. Actualy, knowing what it might say I havnt read it and reading the comments of others who have, I am glad i didnt. I am a gert big softie.
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I wish I hadn't.one picture was enough to close the tab.Didn't read much.Although I do agree that in some countries where food is very short they have to eat but I would rather not know what
The thought of eating Rabbit, which we do in this country(though not as much as we used to I would have though)makes me feel quite queasy.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:07 AM
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I wish I hadn't.one picture was enough to close the tab.Didn't read much.Although I do agree that in some countries where food is very short they have to eat but I would rather not know what
The thought of eating Rabbit, which we do in this country(though not as much as we used to I would have though)makes me feel quite queasy.
Actually, Rabbit is quite good. To coin an old phrase; it tastes like chicken Well, I think it does a bit, but it's good wholesome food.

As I said earlier in the thread, I'm the original softy when it comes to pets. But, if the need arose, I would have no problem in catching my food - always assuming Tesco's are shut
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:20 AM
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I don't mind what's eaten so long as it's not rare and it's humanely brought up, killed and doesn't suffer. However, I don't think I personally could ever kill or eat a cat or a dog (unless it was a dangerous dog attacking me or someone else perhaps) something to do with betrayal of trust I think- and anyway a dog would be useful in tracking Rabbits I'd have thought......
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But at the same time I dont live in Africa where in a lot of places there is a massive food shortage and people are starving. I believe if you were that Hungry you would probably eat anything. (thank goodness i live here )
although this dogmeat was being served in a restaurant in Nigeria, a relatively affluent country (by African standards anyway). Ditto South Korea. It's preference I think, rather than desperation.

It's obviously illogical of us to prefer eating some animals to others, but that article certainly made unpleasant reading. Having said that, I'm a veggie so I don't eat any animals (but I do make a particular point of not eating pets )

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Each to his own – I would not condemn anyone for their eating habits – I might be persuaded to try it, but I must confess I cannot kill anything, but have to admit that I am able to clean, skin, pluck anything that we get for the table from our outdoor friends.
I believe that if we are killing animals then we should not waste the meat.


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As several other posters have said, its all down to our perception of what consistutes food. I keep chickens, pigeons, pet goats and a pony - all of which are food animals to some. We regularly have roast chicken for lunch, but always bought from the local butchers! Never tried goat, but I know people who have and who keep their own for meat.

Guinea pig, Rabbit, bat, snake, squirrel, Hedgehog, deer, quail, parrot - you name it, some cultures keep them as pets, whilst others eat them! To pass judgement about what others dine on, then sit down to eat factory produced meat is a little hypocritical in my opinion.

I once worked for a chap who travelled in the far east a lot, and could regale quite gut wrenching tails of what was served up in various eating places he'd visited.

What annoys me more is the strongly held beliefs that eating various parts of animals has some medical or spiritual benefit. Eating to live is one thing, but eating purely to adhere to some inherent religious or cultural mumbo jumbo is harder to stomach (excuse the pun!).
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:05 PM
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It's the dog thing that I don't like. I will eat virtually anything (except seafood which makes me feel ill) including goat, but I just cannot get my head around eating dog. It smacks of a perverse form of cannibalism to me. Yeah, I know I'm weird, but I bet I'm not the only one
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It's the dog thing that I don't like. I will eat virtually anything (except seafood which makes me feel ill) including goat, but I just cannot get my head around eating dog. It smacks of a perverse form of cannibalism to me. Yeah, I know I'm weird, but I bet I'm not the only one

I know just what you mean Blackdog, my dogs are more than animals, they are my companions and much more. I could no more eat them or their kind than I could dine on my best friend!
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"Civilised"?
If you can eat one animal, then, surely, you can eat any other? Or not - depending on your choice. I suppose I could as easily eat dog as cow - but I won't eat either!
I think there is certainly a case for eating animals which are in excessive numbers and, obviously dogs are present excessively in some places. So are cats, incidentally, but I've never heard of them being eaten - is there some universal tabu?

I think that this is mainly a psychological matter. Although, in my case, as a pork lover, I would find it difficult living in a religious fundamentalist country like Israel or Iran!

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I don't have a problem with what people eat, but I do have a problem with uneducated people claiming that dog tastes better if it's given a long, painful death. Don't know about Africa but in China they certainly believe in a lingering, cruel death due to ignorance and superstition in their culture. Dogs are electrocuted and slowly beaten to death, all the time being watched by others awaiting the same fate. They don't kill cattle in such a dispicable way, so why dogs ? It beggers belief. Don't get me wrong, I'm no veggie, but we have laws governing how our animals are raised and slaughtered ( even though not always followed ) , these countries seriously lack animal welfare anyway and lets face it many of these people have difficult lives and don't have our options. Doubt I could ever try dog as I love them, they're intelligent and a part of family life, love my two to bits. We also keep guinea pigs, which I know are eaten regular in Peru. It's not for me but that's their culture.
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Meat's meat. If I was hungry I would eat it.

What I can't understand are those people who go around eating poor defenceless carrots WHEN THEY ARE STILL ALIVE!!!
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Carrots lack a nervous system.
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The carrot comment was a joke.
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Sorry, didn't mean how it sounded. Just going along with the joke.
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I don't have a problem with what people eat, but I do have a problem with uneducated people claiming that dog tastes better if it's given a long, painful death. Don't know about Africa but in China they certainly believe in a lingering, cruel death due to ignorance and superstition in their culture. Dogs are electrocuted and slowly beaten to death, all the time being watched by others awaiting the same fate. They don't kill cattle in such a dispicable way, so why dogs ? It beggers belief. Don't get me wrong, I'm no veggie, but we have laws governing how our animals are raised and slaughtered ( even though not always followed ) , these countries seriously lack animal welfare anyway and lets face it many of these people have difficult lives and don't have our options. Doubt I could ever try dog as I love them, they're intelligent and a part of family life, love my two to bits. We also keep guinea pigs, which I know are eaten regular in Peru. It's not for me but that's their culture.
Thank you.. everyone else failed to mention that these animals in 'other' countries are treated terribly and usually barbarically killed.
A pet lamb is as loving and intelligent as a pet dog, just depends on what you class as a pet and what you consider food. Many people against Fox hunting and the like happily eat meat from poor welfare standards and so on(ok the Fox doesn't get eaten but it seems a bit hypocritical, at least foxy had a natural life). Meat is murder to me but you can't really descriminate from one animal to another if you're going to eat meat can you?
I hear vietnam is very low on cats as most people have eaten them.
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